(February 17, 2022 at 11:19 pm)Helios Wrote:I am starting to think Mr. "i am a super smart philosopher" actually doesnt understand the concept of burden of proof at all.Quote:That's exactly right. That's why both sides have a responsibility to provide (what they consider to be) facts.Nope only the side claiming something has that responsibility
Quote:"You can't prove X is false, therefore X is true" is obviously a ridiculous argument.This is true
Quote:howeverNope, it's you stating the reason you don't accept their claim and it's the only reason you need to reject a claim. You can still hear them out but that's it.
"You assert that X is true, and I reject that but I don't have to say why" is an evasion -- just a way of saying that you don't want to have a conversation.
Quote:Neither tactic is acceptable in grown-up discussions.Too bad the latter is not a tactic and yes it's totally acceptable. The negative position has no burden nor any need other than the lack of a reason to accept the claim.
I apologize for insinuating he was dishonest.
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