(May 4, 2022 at 4:36 pm)h311inac311 Wrote: Hey guys, I'm new here but I was encouraged by a few members to start my own topic so hopefully this is okay even though I just got here.
For my first topic I would like us to discuss the book of Job as it is one of my favorite books of the Bible. For me personally I have always viewed suffering as a necessary thing that tests and proves our values and convictions. But I also find that the problem of suffering is often the biggest obstacle to faith for many people. It is such a personal thing, how can a loving God allow for an innocent man to suffer? How is it that he could allow for some of the worst things to happen to some of the best people?
So simply put, this thread is dedicated to the problem of suffering in our belief system but to make the topic a little more specific (and interesting) I would also like to get your guys views on the story of Job specifically.
Humans surviving suffering does not mean they have to go out of their way to create suffering.
I am sorry, but Job is a vile story. If I noticed a parent treating a child the way Job gets treated by God, I would call CPS and the police, and hopefully the child would be removed from the house. If I noticed a dominate spouse treating the other like God treats Job, I'd call the police. If I had a friend who treated me like God treats Job I would get the fuck away from them and never see them again.
Suffering isn't the product of a magic man in the sky allowing or causing or testing. Suffering is simply something life endures or dies from. Otherwise you are thinking of yourself as a lab rat, a toy, a puppet.