RE: A Literal Bible. Answering questions
May 8, 2022 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2022 at 6:38 pm by Green Diogenes.)
(May 8, 2022 at 6:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(May 8, 2022 at 6:12 pm)Green Diogenes Wrote: We weren't really talking about that stuff though, Brian, it's more about giving you a tool to use for dealing with Young Earth Creationists. Adopting their narrative about the Bible and then pointing out that it's stupid has been the standard tactic for the last 150 years. This is something new
Yes it is stupid, but that is what theists do, they always have, and it hasn't been just the past century and a half. Look at what the Church of Galileo's time did to him. And FYI, the Vatican didn't officially recognize the planet as a globe until a picture of Earth from space was shown to the Pope. Secretly they knew they were wrong at that time, but religion is always slow on the uptake and constantly has to be drug kicking and screaming into the present.
The only thing that can be said about the past 150 years is that the industrial revolution allowed information to spread at a faster and faster pace, and theists are scrambling to retrofit new and better data to their old mythology.
Well of course you are correct, but my point in the last 150 years is that is when the current narrative was created. The flat earth movement, and Young Earth Creationism, emerged from the 19th century USA. New York has a particularly heavy flow of this specific brand of thought. (Earth was known to be round for a very long time. Flat Earth was a model for astrology to be understood from Earth perspective, not a different mode of thought entirely. Age of the Earth was usually left to Greek Philosophers, prior to the Reformation, iirc)
Atheists, and most modern Christians, have thrown the baby out with the bathwater, mistaking the dismantlement of those religious myths, with the foundational document from which those myths were derived. The book itself though is a powerful tool when dealing with people who insist on the book. Everyone has always spotted that the Christian denominations pick and choose which parts to use and which not, and come up with their own interpretations of the text.
People who insist on the Bible as accurate are a different breed. They know, but cannot explain. This leads them to provably silly beliefs, like that the Bible was written by God, or delivered as a magical document, and that the evidence of their own eyes can be completely ignored unless it agrees with what their preacher tells them the Bible contains. People stuck in this line of thought are also stuck to this ridiculous psuedo-Literal interpretation of Scripture, which does not actually map onto the text when it is taken in context.
You won't be able to shake their belief in the accuracy of the Bible, but where their faith is in their religious myth, and not based in the Scripture they want to follow; that is where you can get in.