(May 8, 2022 at 6:52 pm)brewer Wrote:(May 8, 2022 at 4:39 pm)Green Diogenes Wrote: Aye, figuring out how to break past the dichotomy and hit the core of the issue. It's difficult to break through multiple entrenched dogmas all at once, and I don't have any practice with Atheists so far lol
I'm not particularly interested in talking to Atheists per se, not because I'm not, but because I had 20 years experience being an atheist, and I already know where the 'veil' of the issue is, and can argue there myself. It generally comes down to an issue where two people look at the same piece of data and one man says he can see God, and another says he cannot.
Back to the issue in this thread though; the interpretation style I am using is Biblical, and can be defended extremely robustly in that context, as well as smashing apart the culturally accepted reading. Of course that doesn't mean anything to an atheist, unless possibly as method of engaging people who engage in the "If it's not in the Bible it's not real" line of thinking. It is a tool through that blockade.
Individual examples and the arguments around the events they describe are something that comes in someone's own time, but the general spirit of empathy applies from the start. Where did this person come from, and when? What did he understand, and how would he describe the world around him, especially when it comes to things he does not really understand?
(BTW is it just me or is the post new reply page really laggy?)
Biblical people can defend their position based on the Bible.
Nice circular logic.
The bible is story/anecdote/testimony, not fact.
Agreed.
If a Muslim came up to him and said, "The Koran is fact because the Koran says so", I doubt he'd buy his own logic in that case.
