(June 7, 2022 at 10:45 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: God staked them down, magic book says so. Another variation on the question before. If the current scientific explanation is the correct one, such that a magic book saying something kinda like it if you squint sideways is truth affirming...then wouldn't magic book getting things wrong be truth denying? Are we entirely sure..as a devout muslim, we want to grant the current scientific consensus primacy over the words revealed to big mo by his imaginary friend in a random cave?
That, as I see it, is the trouble with scientific miracles nutballs (at least with respect to the continued existence of an unsecularized islamic faith). Their actual religion, the thing they look at to ascertain truths of the highest importance to them, is science...not islam. Even more pathetically, it can be argued that they have no religion at all - merely a collection of loose and ludicrous superstitions.
The method God used to stake the mountains down is described in scientific books, but attributed to the "laws of physics".
Similar to saying simply that "mountains formed in America"; but in full details it is a long process that happened across billions of years.
Sure, scientific consensus gives the details of the processes, for example it shows us how mountains came to be. But the Quran tells you who caused things to move that way in the first place: until this day scientists have no idea why the universe came to be.
Read my text again and again: scientists' knowledge stop at the explosion of the Singularity; nobody knows what came before the Singularity:
Nobody ever ever scientists, I believe that the Quran gave the scenario for what came before it and came after it.
Secularisation of Islam will fail because you have no answer of what came before the Big Bang.
While Islam gave a fine scenario for what came before.
