Proving What We Already "Know"

[bennyboy]

A gods eye view?  Hardly.  We have a hominids eye view.  We probably miss alot.

Relative to, say, a worm, yes.  And even more to a car.

Does danger mean something?

Yes.  I define "danger" as "threat of a bad change of state."  But in a Universe without qualia, why would ANY change of state be "bad?"  Or for a machine without qualia?

 Honestly, what's the point in beating around the bush?  If you think no, there's no need for some doomed argument to that effect - it's just what you think, right or wrong...and what you think is that nothing means anything.

What I think is that truth is defined by a context.  The truth of the idea of "danger" is in the context of sentient experience.  Outside that context, there really is no meaning in the word "danger."

Let me define sentience though, not to mean full self-awareness or anything like that-- only the ability to have subject experience, i.e. sensation, and some kind of motivational system to approach / avoid.

It's like pulling fucking teeth to get from where you started..to where we are. Stop.

We can stop whenever you want. Just stop responding, and I'll have nothing more to talk about.