(December 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm)Elihu Wrote: Also, by saying the mystic allows everything else to become lucid, the point is that the most basic assumptions (God does / does not exist) cast light on the rest of our thinking (or this is my understanding). So, if you know by revelation the existence of God (for example), then you can think clearly about the meaning (or lack thereof) in the universe. Otherwise "thinking" becomes unguided; built upon presuppositions that have no basis and therefore all conclusions unverifiable.
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I asked how you "feel" because without revelation you have no basis for thinking anything on these issues. They are unknowns. You can have an opinion, but not a fact. No matter how much you think about them, you cannot know anything for sure. (not to mention I am not exactly taking the time to consider the semantics of every single statement I am making... I, like the rest of you, do have responsibilities).
Did you realise that the normal meaning of revelation, to an outsider, looks a lot like self delusion.
Prove to us that any revelation was not self delusion.
In short, show us the evidence for the source of your revelation.
I'll start holding my breathe.......now.

You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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