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The Trap of Pure Rationalism
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RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism
In regards to a higher authority:

Assuming that God exists and created animals, it would make perfect sense that he designed them to, on some level, obey laws that are in keeping with that God's nature.

Appealing to the collective as a means of determining morality sounds good in theory, but what if the collective decides that murder is a perfectly acceptable behavior? Don't we all have an innate sense that murder is, well, wrong?

An Apparent Key Issue:

As has been pointed out, one of the key issues is the credibility of divine revelation. The outsider has no reason to think it is anything other than wishful thinking.

Assuming that God is a personal God and the One who is doing the revealing, you'll have to talk to God about it.

I agree that if revelation is, well, revelation, then it is only available to the one to whom it has been revealed. That an outsider sees it as wishful thinking does not change its reality. It just makes the outsider an outsider.

I would tell you to seek God, but that requires believing in God first. Our presuppositions can limit our options.
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Could each of you please give me a logical reason that you do not believe in God?

Please go into more depth than, "Why would I believe in some spaghetti monster in the sky?" That is not a logical reason. It assumes the answer.
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The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Elihu - December 1, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 1, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Erinome - December 1, 2011 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Jackalope - December 1, 2011 at 10:07 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Elihu - December 1, 2011 at 11:59 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 2, 2011 at 2:18 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by padraic - December 2, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by xntubes - December 2, 2011 at 3:43 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by MysticKnight - December 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Elihu - December 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by downbeatplumb - December 2, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 2, 2011 at 3:44 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Happy UnBeliever - December 2, 2011 at 8:12 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Elihu - December 3, 2011 at 12:54 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 3, 2011 at 3:38 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Ace Otana - December 3, 2011 at 8:35 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by The Grand Nudger - December 3, 2011 at 1:02 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 3, 2011 at 3:05 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by lucent - December 3, 2011 at 8:34 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by downbeatplumb - December 3, 2011 at 8:46 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by lucent - December 3, 2011 at 9:32 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Elihu - December 3, 2011 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 3, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by The Grand Nudger - December 3, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Elihu - December 3, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by The Grand Nudger - December 3, 2011 at 9:21 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by lucent - December 5, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by AthiestAtheist - December 5, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by AthiestAtheist - December 5, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Egor - December 5, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by AthiestAtheist - December 5, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2011 at 6:12 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 5, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Doubting Thomas - December 5, 2011 at 7:32 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2011 at 7:43 pm
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2011 at 10:27 am
RE: The Trap of Pure Rationalism - by Minimalist - December 6, 2011 at 12:21 pm

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