RE: Alpha Course
December 4, 2011 at 10:17 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2011 at 11:57 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The entirety of the Aztec pantheon threw itself in a fire to save humanity (depending upon which principality one lived in, and what point in time we're speaking of). Not just one god sending one of his children, all of them. Might explain why they went to such lengths to appease these gods, given the sacrifice they believed the gods had made for them. Of course these gods, like the christian gods, are immortal. So, after this sacrifice humanity was safe and they resumed their usual day to day. I particularly like this sacrificial god concept as opposed to others, because there's no way apologists can claim this narrative is derived from or a perversion of (or even influenced by) their own. Or, if you prefer to use a narrative that drew more similarities, there is a specific tradition (Nahua, Meso-American) of a single gods self sacrifice for human beings benefit. Nanauatzin and The Five Suns.
Pro-tip, any claim to superiority by unique nature of any religion asks you to ignore the massive amounts of similarities between any two religions. Your "friend" is banking on you not knowing too much about heretical faiths (or banking on the notion that you may be as ignorant as she is with regards to the same). Clever, since her religion attempted to annihilate these alternatives for some reason. One of our resident apologists tried this bullshit argument on me, unfortunately for bullshit I'm not ignorant with regards to sacrificial gods. Notice that this argument doesn't actually make any truth claim (though it's implied). It's just a "wouldn't it be nice if" argument. Well, no it wouldn't be nice if god was a scapegoater, and no it isn't unique. At least in the Nahua naarrative the gods aren't omnipotent, and there was no other way for them to take action and receive the desired effect. They couldn't simply make the cosmos or any part of it conform to their wishes by waving their hands. That's the part that irks me about the christian scapegoating god, he didn't have to go about in in this manner. It was simply a choice he decided to make out of an infinite number of possible choices (omnipotence and omniscience being only two of his garbage attributes, let alone omni-benevolence). Why then decide to make your "plan" conform to a common human notion (that predates christianity's claim to it) which is absolutely baseless and sick?
(I use the term "friend" loosely, as I'm sure she would like to believe she's "just trying to help". If people want to make these arguments they should do their own fucking homework before they offer them up as gospel.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_suns
Pro-tip, any claim to superiority by unique nature of any religion asks you to ignore the massive amounts of similarities between any two religions. Your "friend" is banking on you not knowing too much about heretical faiths (or banking on the notion that you may be as ignorant as she is with regards to the same). Clever, since her religion attempted to annihilate these alternatives for some reason. One of our resident apologists tried this bullshit argument on me, unfortunately for bullshit I'm not ignorant with regards to sacrificial gods. Notice that this argument doesn't actually make any truth claim (though it's implied). It's just a "wouldn't it be nice if" argument. Well, no it wouldn't be nice if god was a scapegoater, and no it isn't unique. At least in the Nahua naarrative the gods aren't omnipotent, and there was no other way for them to take action and receive the desired effect. They couldn't simply make the cosmos or any part of it conform to their wishes by waving their hands. That's the part that irks me about the christian scapegoating god, he didn't have to go about in in this manner. It was simply a choice he decided to make out of an infinite number of possible choices (omnipotence and omniscience being only two of his garbage attributes, let alone omni-benevolence). Why then decide to make your "plan" conform to a common human notion (that predates christianity's claim to it) which is absolutely baseless and sick?
(I use the term "friend" loosely, as I'm sure she would like to believe she's "just trying to help". If people want to make these arguments they should do their own fucking homework before they offer them up as gospel.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_suns
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