RE: What are you bigest reasones for not believing in the Quran only?
December 4, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Re: the OP
I often use the term "Islamo-Christianity" because of their theological similarities. However I recognize that there are some differences between them. Do you know the biggest difference?
Bull crap vs. jack crap
I've written a book on the huge stinking pile of bull crap that Christians present as "evidence" for their faith. However, I'll give the devil his due, the Christians at least offer something to back up their claims. In contrast, the Muslims offer jack crap to back up their claims. The religion claims essentially that some guy said God spoke to him. That's it. Nothing outside the Koran itself is offered as evidence for this claim. No supposed "eye witness accounts". No supposed "fulfillment of ancient prophecy". No forged historical documents like the TF. No storehouse of artifacts sold to the credulous.
Islam described in seven words: some guy claimed God spoke to him. That's all. You can go down to the local mental institute and likely find a half dozen inmates who'll make the same claim with just as much evidence.
Oh, but wait, it gets even better.
Islam claims that Muhammad knew Jesus better than the Christians themselves, the only people he could have heard about Jesus from. That's right. The people who were part of the church allegedly established by Jesus managed to get it all wrong and Muhammad, who could only have heard of Jesus from these same Christians, could set them straight. We're now beyond the realm of special pleading. We're exploring uncharted territory of the ridiculous. This is not just "my prophets tell the truth and yours lie", typical special pleading of religion, but "I knew your prophets better than the people who lived at the time and place in which they lived".
Hell, I could make the same claims about Muhammad. Did you know that he never preached worship of Allah? He said you should forget all this nonsense and use science and reason to understand your universe. It's true. I know Muhammad better than any of those people who've previous written anything about him. And for Muslims who want to play the "power of God" card to get out of this jail of their own making, you have to wonder why the same god who saw fit to speak to Muhammad in a dream couldn't conjure a few burning bushes in Constantinople to set the wayward Christians straight.
But wait, there's more!
You also get the Muslim Jesus, the worst failure of a prophet that could be imagined.
If the Muslim story about Jesus is true, it means he came to be the forerunner of Muhammad. Not more than a few years after flying up into the sky, along comes some guy names Paul who convinces all of Jesus' followers to pay no attention to anything Jesus said and to instead worship him. And apparently the followers of the Muslim Jesus just said, "Duh, ooookeeey. Some guy over here says we should worship him so I guess that's what we'll do".
Are you still believing this story? You may want your mom or dad to come with you next time you buy a car.
OK, but back to the story of the Muslim Jesus. Now here's a prophet that's standing before God, according to the Koran, and he says he never told the Christians to worship him. Now my response as God would have been "well, you're a total fuck up of a prophet then!"
Short of leaving behind a group of followers that worship Satan, I can't imagine a more colossal failure. The clusterfuck was combined with clear negligence on the part of Jesus who never fucking wrote anything down, despite the fact that he could read and write and taught in the temple.
Great prophet my ass!
And the hits keep on coming. Crack open the Koran and you'll have to wade through the rambling ravings of a madman that make the Bible look like fucking Pulitzer material. I managed to get a third of the way through before my eyes completely glazed over. How many times should I be expected to read "Allah is great. Unbelievers will burn." repeatedly exclaimed with bits of Bible stories tossed in to the mix? One of the supposed "proofs" of the Koran is "how beautifully it's written". I wrote more coherent shit in the third grade.
How anybody ever converts to this religion, other than by the sword, is beyond me and some sobering evidence that maybe the atheists are right in that we as humans were lucky to have gotten this far in the first place.
I often use the term "Islamo-Christianity" because of their theological similarities. However I recognize that there are some differences between them. Do you know the biggest difference?
Bull crap vs. jack crap
I've written a book on the huge stinking pile of bull crap that Christians present as "evidence" for their faith. However, I'll give the devil his due, the Christians at least offer something to back up their claims. In contrast, the Muslims offer jack crap to back up their claims. The religion claims essentially that some guy said God spoke to him. That's it. Nothing outside the Koran itself is offered as evidence for this claim. No supposed "eye witness accounts". No supposed "fulfillment of ancient prophecy". No forged historical documents like the TF. No storehouse of artifacts sold to the credulous.
Islam described in seven words: some guy claimed God spoke to him. That's all. You can go down to the local mental institute and likely find a half dozen inmates who'll make the same claim with just as much evidence.
Oh, but wait, it gets even better.
Islam claims that Muhammad knew Jesus better than the Christians themselves, the only people he could have heard about Jesus from. That's right. The people who were part of the church allegedly established by Jesus managed to get it all wrong and Muhammad, who could only have heard of Jesus from these same Christians, could set them straight. We're now beyond the realm of special pleading. We're exploring uncharted territory of the ridiculous. This is not just "my prophets tell the truth and yours lie", typical special pleading of religion, but "I knew your prophets better than the people who lived at the time and place in which they lived".
Hell, I could make the same claims about Muhammad. Did you know that he never preached worship of Allah? He said you should forget all this nonsense and use science and reason to understand your universe. It's true. I know Muhammad better than any of those people who've previous written anything about him. And for Muslims who want to play the "power of God" card to get out of this jail of their own making, you have to wonder why the same god who saw fit to speak to Muhammad in a dream couldn't conjure a few burning bushes in Constantinople to set the wayward Christians straight.
But wait, there's more!
You also get the Muslim Jesus, the worst failure of a prophet that could be imagined.
If the Muslim story about Jesus is true, it means he came to be the forerunner of Muhammad. Not more than a few years after flying up into the sky, along comes some guy names Paul who convinces all of Jesus' followers to pay no attention to anything Jesus said and to instead worship him. And apparently the followers of the Muslim Jesus just said, "Duh, ooookeeey. Some guy over here says we should worship him so I guess that's what we'll do".
Are you still believing this story? You may want your mom or dad to come with you next time you buy a car.
OK, but back to the story of the Muslim Jesus. Now here's a prophet that's standing before God, according to the Koran, and he says he never told the Christians to worship him. Now my response as God would have been "well, you're a total fuck up of a prophet then!"
Short of leaving behind a group of followers that worship Satan, I can't imagine a more colossal failure. The clusterfuck was combined with clear negligence on the part of Jesus who never fucking wrote anything down, despite the fact that he could read and write and taught in the temple.
Great prophet my ass!
And the hits keep on coming. Crack open the Koran and you'll have to wade through the rambling ravings of a madman that make the Bible look like fucking Pulitzer material. I managed to get a third of the way through before my eyes completely glazed over. How many times should I be expected to read "Allah is great. Unbelievers will burn." repeatedly exclaimed with bits of Bible stories tossed in to the mix? One of the supposed "proofs" of the Koran is "how beautifully it's written". I wrote more coherent shit in the third grade.
How anybody ever converts to this religion, other than by the sword, is beyond me and some sobering evidence that maybe the atheists are right in that we as humans were lucky to have gotten this far in the first place.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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