(December 1, 2011 at 9:20 pm)Elihu Wrote: Body: My argument is simple. If you are a pure rationalist and cannot accept as fact anything not observable and explainable, then you are trapped in a box that no longer allows for the existence of common humanity as a greater principle. You can be kind, but there is no such thing as kindness. Because nothing beyond the rational box exists, kindness itself, which is really beyond the box, cannot exist except in your own imaginings.
This is why I've always said that far from being "brights" atheists tend to be extremely ignorant of the world around them. This ignorance is not a product of their IQ, which may be otherwise quite high, it comes from everything they have to close their eyes to in order to maintain their atheism.
For instance, in all the reports of precognition all over the world througout all of time, an atheists has to claim none of it ever happened and all those who think it did are deluded.
"In the beginning, the universe began." Is the only statement they can make about the meaning of the universe.
Or when it comes to morality, they will say, "Atheists can be moral without God." And in so doing they have to believe that morality can exist without an ultimate authority for the laws of morality.
They end up becoming extremely limited and ignorant because of the box they keep themselves in. Thus, one can truly say it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a theist.
