(December 11, 2022 at 6:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(December 11, 2022 at 5:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The topic here isn’t the horrors committed by Western civilization (and, as you say, there are plenty). We’re discussing Iran, and YOU, not me, dragged the Saudis into the mix.
It’s not a strawman [sic] for me to discuss what’s being discussed. It is, however, a red herring for you to bring up the myriad crimes of the West when that isn’t topic.
And, for the record, nothing in my post criticized Islam. I was criticizing theocratic governance, which is a different kettle of fish of another colour.
Boru
It's interconnected; I speak from a globalist perspective; not a nationalistic one.
The "Islamic" society is one entity from Morocco to Afghanistan after all; an issue in Iran echos in Egypt, and issue in Syria echos in Turkey and Yemen, and so on.
Similar to the Yanks creating "Al Qaeda" to battle USSR. The Yanks are globalists too; so they utilize that in their wars.
You can't discuss Iran without discussing the western interventions in the affairs of the country (currently the west is the strongest entity controlling the globe through economy and Nuclear force).
In other words; I'm just saying that most moves has western fingerprints, not due to superiority; but due to de-facto economic & military scale.
Just ask yourself this question and you'll see my point: "where did Ruhollah Khomeini get the cash from to support his movement?".
Ask the same question about any global-domestic event, and you'll understand why I go through the long history. The devil is in the details.
Then by all means, feel free to go apeshit about globalism in some other thread, but don’t use this one to make false accusations about me.
Boru
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