God's law or private law?

[The Grand Nudger]

I think it's a bit more complicated than just obeying themselves, they have their cultures - which does implicate their gods on one level. Ultimately, though, I agree that no one is obeying any gods in this - but I would think that, being an atheist and all, lol. There's a tendency among the faithful to zero out whatever bad things people are doing, and genuinely doing, because of their beliefs. That these people are not following the "real" message of their shared religions or gods. Often enough, this is paired with (their own) notions of fundamentalism as a cure, in the example you brought up that would be quranists - here it's evangelical protestants. You can probably see how a person of deep evangelical protestant faith, by acting out the dictates of their fundamentalist religion, can do bad things because of it, not in spite of it. It may be harder for you to see that in your own religion. They, likewise, can explain why your religion, genuinely and earnestly followed, can do harm - but often fail to see it in their own cases.

All of the abrahamic magic books are dated and wrong, so I don't find the fundamentalist position very compelling. Just a matter of selecting which magic book they want to fuck up by...and, as mentioned above, none of the competing claims to divine exclusivity and authority carry any weight with me, as none of you can demonstrate that these -other- claimants are doing something fundamentally different from what you're doing. A better argument against stupidity is that it's stupid, even if a god told you to do it...it would still be stupid. Banning women from universities, preventing half or better of your population from being fully educated, is national suicide. It doesn't really matter why you do it, who told you to do it, or how you do it. The us, for example, is making a run at that through poverty.