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Energy As The Essence of Sentience
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RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience
(January 10, 2023 at 12:22 pm)Authari Wrote:
(January 10, 2023 at 11:43 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Meh, energy probably is the essence of sentience, in the same way that mint is the essence of mint chocolate chip ice cream.   I'm not so sure energy is alive though, and...frankly, it seems cross purpose to assert as much, considering that we're proposing a sentient entity which would not be alive by any of the many loose definitions of life - and so, we have a problem.  The thing you want to tell us about, a god, a creator with a capital c, is unlikely to be an animal..for example... in your description of it.  Just as your own example of a sentient rock.  The rock is sentient, but not alive.  Like AI might be.   Is energy malfunctioning in the case of rocks, ai, and gods, or can we dispense with the second assertion as a failure of your own imagination or terms - in favor of preserving the first?

I define sentience as life. >.>

Exactly the issue, yes.  There are many things which are alive but not sentient, and no reason to assume that all sentient things are or have to be alive.  

If we absolutely insist, then we can consider only those sentient things as living things, but we'll need a new term for those previously categorized-as living things to avoid further confusion.  Bioautomata is out, even though it probably describes the conceptual set, as it acknowledges that non sentient things can be alive. What do you propose? Or, conversely, we can decide to categorize only living things as sentient things, in which case we're going to have a hell of alot of trouble arguing for a god.
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Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 7:03 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by LinuxGal - December 30, 2022 at 8:15 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2022 at 8:16 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 8:19 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 8:28 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 8:47 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:01 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 9:10 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 8, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by zebo-the-fat - December 30, 2022 at 8:20 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Fake Messiah - December 30, 2022 at 8:24 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by LinuxGal - December 30, 2022 at 9:13 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 8:23 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 8:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 8:48 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 8:49 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2022 at 9:31 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:36 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2022 at 9:55 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2022 at 11:00 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 11:09 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2022 at 11:17 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 11:27 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2022 at 11:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 11:51 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by LinuxGal - December 30, 2022 at 12:08 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Jehanne - December 30, 2022 at 5:12 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 13, 2023 at 11:07 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Objectivist - January 7, 2023 at 1:44 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 9:47 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:49 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 9:54 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:58 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 10:03 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - December 30, 2022 at 9:57 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 10:09 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - December 30, 2022 at 10:03 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 10:38 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Deesse23 - December 30, 2022 at 11:21 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Peebothuhlu - December 30, 2022 at 11:43 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Ravenshire - December 30, 2022 at 2:52 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Nay_Sayer - December 30, 2022 at 8:40 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Objectivist - January 7, 2023 at 1:35 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 7, 2023 at 2:44 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Tomatoshadow2 - January 9, 2023 at 4:38 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 9, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 9, 2023 at 6:33 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 10, 2023 at 8:33 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 8:53 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 10, 2023 at 10:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 10:47 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 10, 2023 at 10:53 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 11:02 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 12, 2023 at 10:54 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 11, 2023 at 10:39 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 11, 2023 at 10:38 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 12, 2023 at 8:14 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 10, 2023 at 8:56 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - January 10, 2023 at 11:05 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 11:19 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2023 at 11:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 11:53 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2023 at 12:21 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2023 at 11:43 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Tomatoshadow2 - January 10, 2023 at 11:56 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 12:22 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Paleophyte - January 11, 2023 at 9:49 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Tomatoshadow2 - January 10, 2023 at 11:59 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2023 at 12:27 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - January 10, 2023 at 2:03 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Pat Mustard - January 10, 2023 at 8:38 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 10, 2023 at 10:27 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2023 at 11:23 am

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