(January 25, 2023 at 10:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(January 25, 2023 at 9:06 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: No. But in the whole region around here you’ve had a lot of show of force. Women with headscarves (how could we do without them), burning of Swedish flags, bearded idiots shouting İslamist slogans (just three month before the general elections in Turkey. What a coincidence?) etc. just typical ego-responses and more enmity between human beings as if this is exactly what we need.
I see myself as above this kind of people. They are not really my problem. That’s why I created this topic. But he is still what he is. There are many Muslims in Europe who do feel offended by that. So I personally really don’t like what he did. I see it as a purely racist motivated action.
Well, if burning a magic book wasn't any concern of The Original Message™..we'd have to call it kosher.
IDK if you're above those kinds of people, regardless of how you see yourself. You're having a similar reaction to the book burning - imagining it to be a hate crime. Still, you're right, it hasn't sent you into a fit, or at least not the same kind of fit. IDK Leo, maybe they just care more about god and his magic book than you do?
All I said is that you have to understand I book before burning it. Books are designed to be read, not to be played ball with or to be used as charcoal.
I’m a big supporter of freedom of expression too. And if the Swedish Law says it is ok, than it has to be OK. I don’t like Charlie Hebdo either. I hate their sense of humor but that’s not so repulsive. Because in the end Charlie Hebdo is a satirical magazine that is designed for a particular audience. So if you don’t like it you don’t read it.
What this guy did is different. First of all everyone knows he is a far-right activist who hates Muslims not because of religious thoughts but because of racial reasons. And what he did is simply abusive toward people who are living as minorities across Europe and who already feel they don’t really have the same rights as Europeans who are “white” if you know what I mean. I am not saying these people are right. But there are teenagers etc. who live in suburbs or in poor neighborhoods. So when they see this guy doing what he did in their smartphones, some of them will feel they have even more reasons for feeling discriminated or feeling they must take revenge on “white” Europeans.
That’s all I am saying. So what he did is not cool as you would put it.
By the way. There is a political aspect to the event too. Victor Orban + The President for three more month is blocking Sweden’s accession to NATO. To everything I could also add that this isn’t the cause. The current government wants something (anything) that he could use to show his electorate that he is strong vis a vis the West. I really hope they give him nothing of the sort and in the end: No one is opposed to Sweden’s accession to NATO. Sweden is being to relaxed on Terror groups like the PKK. But the only way to address this is a better Turkish government who can focus on real issues rather than some childish provocations. (I said childish provocations).
For those interested: https://www.yahoo.com/news/sweden-seeks-...01956.html
