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Here we go ...
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RE: Here we go ...
(February 1, 2023 at 6:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(February 1, 2023 at 6:07 pm)Justin Case Wrote: You can argue with the scholars ... it was the first version of monotheism - it replaced the polytheism in Egypt - yes. it pissed the people off but there was nothing they could do until he was dead. A bigger connection is tied to the Zoroastrians and Zarathustra's "experience" that started this much deeper picture.

There's no way around it ... the Hebrew GOD was a copy of a copy.

There are fairly strong and well-reasoned arguments among Egyptologists that Atenism was closer to henotheism than to monotheism.

Boru

What gods existed with Aten? According to this article (that I hope doesn't get erased LOL)
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In its early stages, Atenism is best described as a henotheistic religion (a religion devoted to a single god while accepting the existence of other gods) but it developed into a proto-monotheistic system. The full extent of his religious reforms were not apparent until the ninth year of his reign. As well as proclaiming the Aten the only god, he banned the use of idols with the exception of a rayed solar disc. He also made it clear that the image of the Aten only represented the god, but that the god transcended creation and so could not be fully understood or represented. This aspect of his faith bears a notable resemblance to the religion of Moses, prompting Freud to suggest that Akhenaten was the first Monotheist.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
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Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 3:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 29, 2023 at 4:14 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - January 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 29, 2023 at 4:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 4:35 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - January 29, 2023 at 4:49 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - January 29, 2023 at 11:04 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 5:10 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - January 30, 2023 at 5:35 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 6:49 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Aegon - January 30, 2023 at 5:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Aegon - January 31, 2023 at 1:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 2:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - January 29, 2023 at 11:30 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 5:32 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 6:05 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2023 at 8:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2023 at 1:26 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 7:34 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 7:44 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 7:57 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 7:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 10:12 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Aegon - January 31, 2023 at 1:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 30, 2023 at 10:06 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 10:31 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 30, 2023 at 10:37 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fireball - January 30, 2023 at 10:38 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 10:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 9:45 am
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - January 31, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 3:23 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 31, 2023 at 3:45 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:29 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 31, 2023 at 4:48 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - January 31, 2023 at 3:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:25 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by HappySkeptic - January 31, 2023 at 3:29 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:27 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 31, 2023 at 6:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - January 31, 2023 at 8:03 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 1:21 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 1:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 2:42 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 4:10 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 5:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 6:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 1:20 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 2:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 2:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 2:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 1, 2023 at 3:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:03 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:15 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:20 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 3:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 4:58 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:34 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 1, 2023 at 4:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 4:56 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 5:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 6:13 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 7:25 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:45 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 8:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:50 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 6:11 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:57 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 7:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 7:11 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:17 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 7:50 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:53 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 8:15 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 1, 2023 at 9:42 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 1:37 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 2, 2023 at 2:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 2:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 2, 2023 at 3:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 3:27 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 3:50 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 5:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 5:33 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 7:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 2, 2023 at 7:23 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 8:11 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 2, 2023 at 9:38 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 10:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Silver - February 2, 2023 at 9:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 10:16 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 10:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 1, 2023 at 10:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2023 at 4:10 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 12:53 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 3, 2023 at 12:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 2:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 3, 2023 at 2:41 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 2:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 3, 2023 at 3:06 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 3, 2023 at 4:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Silver - February 3, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 3:04 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 4:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 4, 2023 at 12:16 am
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 4, 2023 at 1:15 am
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 7, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 3, 2023 at 3:35 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:46 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 3, 2023 at 4:38 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 4:44 pm



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