RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 5:29 am
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2023 at 5:48 am by Belacqua.)
Quote:Fake MessiahFake MessiahOr Roger Stone who collaborated with Russian hackers through Wikileaks and thus created the falsely dreaded "email lady".
from Politico:
Quote:Mueller’s final report — the byproduct of 18 months of investigation, 500 witness interviews and more than 2,800 subpoenas — concluded that there was insufficient evidence to file charges involving a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian hackers. It only hinted at the Trump campaign’s eagerness to profit off WikiLeaks’ disclosures.
Stone was convicted of obstructing, lying, and witness tampering. There were no convictions for aiding Russia or hacking.
Quote:During the 2016 campaign, Stone was accused by Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign chairman John Podesta of having prior knowledge of the publishing by WikiLeaks of Podesta's private emails obtained by a hacker.[134] Stone tweeted before the leak, "It will soon [sic] the Podesta's time in the barrel". Five days before the leak, Stone tweeted, "Wednesday Hillary Clinton is done. #Wikileaks."[135] Stone has denied having any advance knowledge of the Podesta email hack or any connection to Russian intelligence, stating that his earlier tweet was referring to reports of the Podesta Group's own ties to Russia.[136][137]
Note who is making the accusations. Hillary and her minions have repeatedly made accusations concerning Russia -- none of which has been proven. Again, see the Columbia Journalism Review.
from the CJR:
Quote:The end of the long inquiry into whether Donald Trump was colluding with Russia came in July 2019, when Robert Mueller III, the special counsel, took seven, sometimes painful, hours to essentially say no.
Incidentally, no information from Wikileaks has ever been shown to be false.
Quote:No doubt you will also proclaim that the First impeachment of Donald Trump did not happe where he got impeached bc he also worked for Putin by refusing to give Ukraine military aid so that it can defend itself from Russia and because Trump again tried to use solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
Trump was impeached for his actions with Ukraine. He wanted Ukraine to help him dig up dirt on the Bidens. The part about "worked for Putin" is something you have added that is not in the articles of impeachment. There was no war at the time, and if all sides had been abiding by the Minsk agreement there would have been no reason to build up the Ukrainian army.
There is, in fact, evidence that Hunter Biden was involved in shady dealings in Ukraine, and that if these had come out fully it would have hurt Biden's election campaign.
So the motives you have attributed to Trump are your own speculation. Given his typical focus on himself and his own gain, it's entirely believable that he was twisting Zelensky's arm solely for his own benefit, and not for Russia's.
