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Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union

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Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
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Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:28 pm
Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:32 pm (This post was last modified: October 28, 2022 at 2:33 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(October 28, 2022 at 2:28 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union

russia being in the EU is a mortal threat to the global influence of the US.   the US has a lot more lever to pull to make such integration to painful to consider for the EU.

in the long run, russia’s weight in the EU would also come at the expense of the influence of eastern european states.  so they will bitterly oppose it under any pretext.
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October 28, 2022 at 2:33 pm (This post was last modified: October 28, 2022 at 2:34 pm by Jehanne.)
As a proponent of one-World government, it seems like a good idea, but, it's not going to happen anytime in the near term, barring a global thermonuclear war or a worldwide catastrophic environmental meltdown, or, both.
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:33 pm (This post was last modified: October 28, 2022 at 2:39 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(October 28, 2022 at 2:28 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union

There’s these things called ‘maps’…

Geography aside, Russia meets almost none of the criteria for EU membership.

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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:45 pm
I am not interested in the opinion of the USA. Merkel and Scholz are independent. Trump proved it

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If Moscow grants independence to the eastern territories, it will join the European Union

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you have anti-German rhetoric
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:48 pm
(October 28, 2022 at 2:45 pm)Interaktive Wrote: I am not interested in the opinion of the USA. Merkel and Scholz are independent. Trump proved it

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If Moscow grants independence to the eastern territories, it will join the European Union

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you have anti-German rhetoric

What does any of this have to do with Germany?
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:54 pm
(October 28, 2022 at 2:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(October 28, 2022 at 2:45 pm)Interaktive Wrote: I am not interested in the opinion of the USA. Merkel and Scholz are independent. Trump proved it

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If Moscow grants independence to the eastern territories, it will join the European Union

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you have anti-German rhetoric

What does any of this have to do with Germany?

you do not want to strengthen the European Union, meaning Germany, Poland, Ukraine
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 2:58 pm
(October 28, 2022 at 2:45 pm)Interaktive Wrote: I am not interested in the opinion of the USA. Merkel and Scholz are independent. Trump proved it

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If Moscow grants independence to the eastern territories, it will join the European Union

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you have anti-German rhetoric

they are not independent.   no nation is truly independent.   all are susceptible to influence. the US has a lot of influence.
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 3:00 pm
(October 28, 2022 at 2:45 pm)Interaktive Wrote: I am not interested in the opinion of the USA. Merkel and Scholz are independent. Trump proved it

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If Moscow grants independence to the eastern territories, it will join the European Union

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you have anti-German rhetoric

moscow will not grant independence to eastern territory any more than the chinese will let taiwan or hong king go, or the US put up with secession of some of its states.
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RE: Russia is Europe. Kyiv and Moscow should be in the European Union
October 28, 2022 at 3:06 pm
Gorbachev and Yeltsin gave independence to Ukraine

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Washington has no power without London

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France was already withdrawing from NATO. The European Union can create an independent army
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