Rationally proving rationality

[reverendjeremiah]

In order to understand one's own argument they must understand their opponent's fully.

Thats what I like about you so far..I have the same mentality.

That is why I posted this thread. I was a staunch atheist until I came across this question. I figured that I could post it on here to see other atheist's opinions on the topic. My point is not to prove or disprove the existence of a deity, although if this is true then it has implications against the support for the non-existence of God.

You can still be a stauch atheist and question things like this...nobody says you cant consider that you may be wrong while still being an atheist. Atheism is merely a statement of belief, not knowledge. How can you believe in something you are not sure of?

I understand that many religious individuals are close-minded and naive about their beliefs, which often corresponds with perceived stupidity. I beg you not to consider me in this category. I simply wish to further strengthen my stance of atheism by answering this question. If you can't understand the question then I apologize, but don't attack me for having an alternative motive, please.

I dont consider you that way. in fact I consider you a refreshing addition to the site.

Give the other members time to get to know you...remember, you did come on pretty strong right off the bat. Not bad, just strong. most people kind of wait to get known before they jump right into a topic such as this.

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So when do we get to the "well I can't rule out god despite rational thought, because rational thought carries no more weight than irrational thought" bit? I'm getting impatient.

That is a good question, but I dont think that is what he is asking.

I do believe what he is asking is "How can we KNOW FOR SURE that rationality is dependable."

Of course this right away conjures ideas of space aliens using mind control devices and such to fool you into thinking shit contrary to reality, but what he asks is a legitimate question. It also brings up humorous side questions such as "How can we know an apple is really an apple." Or "What if C-A-T really meant 'Dog'?"

How can we KNOW that rationality is actually rational.