RE: Due process possibly being abolished. Article & Petition Explaining.
December 12, 2011 at 6:07 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2011 at 6:11 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
As fucked up as that is, I've been reading all of these ridiculous diatribes about it that miss the mark completely. It involves traitors and enemies of the U.S. That means it has absolutely nothing to do with an average citizen.tairs/
(1)'Traitor' is a catch-a term,like 'un-American'.
(2) um,exactly how do you determine who is and is not a traitor without a trial and conviction?
(3)What the fuck gives the US the right to afford others less legal protection than its own citizens? (Australia does it too,with refugees,and it's shameful.)
The notion of "well I'b better not be traitor" is right up there with "you'll talk to the police if you have nothing to hide"
The hysteria comes from those who think draconian laws are necessary and think it's just dandy to give the give the government more,not less power. No government can be trusted implicitly.That's why there are legal and constitutional checks and balances; to keep the bastards honest-is.
IF you've never seen it, I urge you to watch the video below "Don't talk to the police" or "In praise of the Fifth amendment" ,by an professor James Duane.
from Wiki:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
PS Chief Robert Jackson was chief US prosecutor the Nazi war trials at Nuremberg.
(1)'Traitor' is a catch-a term,like 'un-American'.
(2) um,exactly how do you determine who is and is not a traitor without a trial and conviction?
(3)What the fuck gives the US the right to afford others less legal protection than its own citizens? (Australia does it too,with refugees,and it's shameful.)
The notion of "well I'b better not be traitor" is right up there with "you'll talk to the police if you have nothing to hide"
The hysteria comes from those who think draconian laws are necessary and think it's just dandy to give the give the government more,not less power. No government can be trusted implicitly.That's why there are legal and constitutional checks and balances; to keep the bastards honest-is.
IF you've never seen it, I urge you to watch the video below "Don't talk to the police" or "In praise of the Fifth amendment" ,by an professor James Duane.
from Wiki:
Quote:James Duane is a Regent University School of Law professor, former criminal defense attorney, and Fifth Amendment expert.[1] He received some notoriety for his "Don't Talk To Police" video of a lecture he gave to a group of law students, which instructs citizens to never talk to police under any circumstances. After gaining mild popularity on sites such as YouTube and Google, his lecture received criticism from a blogger on the neoconservative website, The Weekly Standard.[2][3].
In support of his "Don't Talk to Police" mantra, Duane cites, among other things that: 1) police have the ability to lie to criminal suspects during questioning, and sometimes employ this tactic; 2) police may have substantial evidence against even innocent witnesses and; 3) individuals convinced of their own innocence may have unknowingly committed a crime which the inadvertently confess to during questioning.[4] This follows the reasoning of Justice Robert Jackson in Watts v. Indiana.
He has also written about what he views to be bizarre legislative drafting errors in the Virginia Statute on Privileged Marital Communications[5] as well as issues involving the introduction of hearsay evidence at trial (known as "bootstrapping").[6]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
PS Chief Robert Jackson was chief US prosecutor the Nazi war trials at Nuremberg.
