(June 24, 2023 at 3:58 pm)Authari Wrote:(June 24, 2023 at 8:03 am)Helios Wrote: Yes too bad for you that nothing grants it the right to live in her body.
Nope, it's got to be there only if the mother wills it. Otherwise, she has every right to kick it out. Nothing in nature grants entitles it to live there.
Whether the womb evolved for a certain function in no way grants it the right to stay there and in no way denies the woman the right to remove it from her body.
Nope, it's wonderful women have bodily rights and are not enslaved to their biology as you seem to want it.
There is nothing about the evolution of the womb that endows it with the right to be there and denies the women the right to remove it. And it has nothing to do with shame and everything to do with dignity and choice.
Actually, it does invalidate all your points and to date, you have not provided a single relevant counter aside from assertions and nothing I have said is circular in the slightest so this is a false comparison. So no you have lost the argument in every way you could. Its ontological state does not grant it the right to live inside someone else this is not a circular claim and you have yet to even come close to countering it.
No one invited that life anywhere and even if they did they have every right to change their mind. But sex is not an invitation to be pregnant nor is there any reason they should remain so if they don't want to. And no I got a vasectomy because my family has a disposition toward a certain inheritable illness and I didn't think it was right to have children because I would pass it on. I became an atheist because I didn't find religious claims convincing and I more than believe in moral consequences just not to imaginary wizards in the sky. And it's not a sin (because sins are imaginary) to choose not to remain pregnant and it's her womb and she has every right to remove it from her womb. The only thing I advocate for is choice. Nothing more and nothing less.
I never said that wasn't bad. I have no idea what your point is here. My point was killing rapists will just back them into a corner and make them more violent.
You let irrationality into your brain and are a lost soul. I'll think for you and one day you might not profane the rights of women ...
Ah sweet victory, so this is what it is like to relish in the utter defeat of my enemies. Glorious.
So now you can leave? Toodles.