RE: Rationally proving rationality
December 14, 2011 at 6:51 pm
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2011 at 6:54 pm by Perhaps.)
(December 14, 2011 at 6:35 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(December 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm)Perhaps Wrote:(December 14, 2011 at 5:40 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Genkaus has answered everything you have pondered, more than satisfactorily - IMO.
By the way, what topic would you approach that is not of this Universe, reality or dimensions? A simple sentence should suffice as an answer to that query.
If you feel that way then there's no need to respond further. As for the topics which do not pertain to our universe, reality, or dimensions - God could be among them.
If you simply dismiss an argument because it proposes God then you are naive and ignorant. You become the equivalent to any who do the same but with an opposite position. An open mind is necessary if you are ever to grow as an intellectual.
Just quit with the insults and patronisation right now.
I asked the question for a reason, because I want an answer. Nowhere have I said in that last post that "I feel any way" or dismissed anything.
I said a) I agree with genkaun - this should not be a problem to you seeing as though you're so open minded and open to dialogue?, and b) "By the way, what topic would you approach that is not of this Universe, reality or dimensions?" - I ask you this again. Once again, I asked you this question for a reason.
All I need is a simple answer as to what you think. Not a paragraph ignoring the question and patronising me.
Can you answer please?
If you're going to ignore what I say then there is no point in me responding to you further. I've answered your question and I stand by my 'insults and patronizing' for the reason that I also stated in my previous response.
(December 14, 2011 at 6:40 pm)Magicthighs Wrote:(December 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm)Perhaps Wrote:(December 14, 2011 at 8:59 am)Magicthighs Wrote:(December 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm)Perhaps Wrote: "...Even rationality is grounded in a leap of intutition. There is no way to rationally prove that rationallity is a good way to look at the world. We intue it - that it is very helpful. And as we know, according to Pascal, the end point of rationallity is to demonstrate the limits to rationality."
Please define rationality.
Rationality - the state or quality of being rational.
Rational - Having or exercising reason.
Okay so far, if that's what you're intending rationality to mean.
Quote:Reason - the mental powers concerned with forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences [based upon observations].
Seems like you just went to dictionary.com and tacked "[based upon observations]" at the end of entry 3. Problem is, even by tacking on that bit, you're including reasons like "the voices told me to do it" and "I saw it in a vision". Even creationists base their claims on observations.
All you're saying here is that rationality means the state of using your mind to form conclusions, judgments or inferences [based on observations]. Do you know of any other ways to form conclusions, judgments or inferences?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. You can make the definition of rationality whatever you wish, but the statement still stands that it's intued. The definition does not alter the argument in this case, as far as i'm aware.
Brevity is the soul of wit.