RE: The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.
July 22, 2023 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: July 22, 2023 at 10:52 am by Bucky Ball.)
(July 22, 2023 at 9:32 am)Angrboda Wrote: Theists seem to overlook the fact that the question of why something rather than nothing can apply to their god as well. Imagine there is no universe, there is only a god. Why is there a god rather than nothing?
Can you answer that question, Xavier?
I apologize for being "ad nauseam" repetitive on this point, (but no one ever answered it), and in fact on another forum, one of the most militant theists there at the time,
said in reply to it ... "oh" (just "oh" and nothing more) ... as he saw there is no answer for this : if a god (timelessly/eternally) alone "exists" it can have no descriptors or attributes as they are generally "applied" to the god. In fact even the term "exists" is one of those properties/descriptors, which are ALL subsets of Reality. And the question remains, ... "where did Reality come from, IN WHICH the gods "exist'.
Angrboda's excellent point above is just another way of making this point. Why is there there a god, rather than nothing ?
The notions of most theist deities are very complex, and the gods are not "simple", and are described by theists as having all sorts of attributes.
Why would it have to be "good", especially considering what is observed in this universe ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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