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Fine Tuning Principle: Devastating Disproof and Scientific Refutation of Atheism.
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RE: Fine Tuning Principle: Devastating Disproof and Scientific Refutation of Atheism.
(July 22, 2023 at 11:14 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Grandizer, here is more on the book I mentioned, which could help clarify the matter: https://www.eclectica.org/v4n2/skea_rees.html

"The first is a ratio of the strength of the electrical forces that hold atoms together divided by the force of gravity between them. It is very large, about 10^36, and were it a few zeros shorter, only a short-lived miniature universe could exist and there would be no time for biological evolution.

The second number is also a ratio and is the proportion of energy that is released when hydrogen fuses into helium. This number is 0.007, and if it were 0.006 or 0.008 we could not exist."

Even if this were all true (for the sake of argument), this doesn't mean therefore that the most likely explanation is that the universe was intelligently designed. Even if this universe was fine-tuned for life, and even if the fine-tuning for life had to be remarkably precise for life to exist eventually, the fine-tuning could have been due to some naturalistic necessity rather than chance.

So your conclusion is still unwarranted.

But in reality, there isn't an established scientific consensus on this matter, and you're arguing from selective authority.

ETA: Something that just crossed my mind, and because I'm bored. Regarding the two ratios described above (along with the four other constants), it could be that while adjusting only one of these constants could suddenly render the universe not life-permitting, adjusting all constants simultaneously could still lead to a life-permitting universe if there are other sets of values that allow for life.
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RE: Fine Tuning Principle: Devastating Disproof and Scientific Refutation of Atheism. - by GrandizerII - July 22, 2023 at 2:04 pm

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