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The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.
RE: The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.
(July 22, 2023 at 1:28 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: It's a bit like this, since we were talking about Baptism: if you've never jumped into a swimming pool, say, and have no idea, from first person experience, what being immersed in water feels like, then you're not getting the whole picture. Once you actually have that experience, then you know, and Billions from All Continents across/over 2000 years starting from the Apostles of Christ down to today have had it. The arguments are there to make you take that leap into the water, so to speak; they are accessible even to those who've never experienced Christ. Those who've experienced Christ have an additional witness.

Nope. A great example of a non-sequitur, and false analogy.
Jumps from swimming pools to some sort of false analogy about equating that to some sort of belief, with no connection. 
You STILL are presuming belief. There is no *reason* to be jumping anywhere. You are so blinded by your cult, you cannot imagine non-belief. 

Quote:That witness is the Holy Spirit living in us, answered prayers, experienced miracles etc. Here it's a case of both/and, neither/or. If the Philosophical Arguments are sound, there would be reason to believe God exists and can be experienced in a personal way. That's the theory. Then there is Practical Experience. Those are the Practicals, so to speak. The theory is there to lead you to the practicals. 

We don't give a shit about your Holy Spirit. You have not demonstrated it exists, thus you cannot invoke it here. 
1st principle of debate : Know your audience. 
It's all nothing but your interpretation of events. There are countless crazy interpretations of events, we see many of these nuts in the ED every day. 
Some are admitted to Psychiatry. 
Stop expecting us to share your false assumptions. 
You really don't get how to argue or convince anyone of anything, do you ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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RE: The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress. - by Bucky Ball - July 22, 2023 at 2:25 pm

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