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A question about Thomism
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RE: A question about Thomism
Depends on whether we're talking about god, or everything else. Simultaneity for everything else is exactly what you think it is. Simultaneity for god is something else, as god exists outside of time. So, for example, the sorts of temporal causes we're familiar with require some component of simultaneity in order to be proposed as a cause. For me to cut the cheese, the knife has to move with my hand, through the cheese, as I think about cutting the cheese.

For the a-temporal god.....well, I'm going to cut to the chase and say that there's actually no way in human language for me to properly describe what/how it is that god, outside of time, has simultaneous access to all moments in time, the source of it's future-knowledge. It has the descriptive appearance of simultaneity - but that must be false, because there are no moments -for god- for things to be simultaneous in.

Remember, god has every property, but possesses every property in an utterly different way than anything else. The only way I can think of to even refer to the idea is maybe to attach a G in front of it, call it Gsimultaneity, and leave the apparent semantic or linguistic contradictions as they are and without elaboration or correction - asserting that they can only be apparent and not actual, and that there's no way a human could correct them anyway.

In short, it's a fucking mystery, in the classical sense of the term.
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A question about Thomism - by Angrboda - July 25, 2023 at 9:04 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Silver - July 25, 2023 at 9:11 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2023 at 9:18 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by GrandizerII - July 25, 2023 at 1:41 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Neo-Scholastic - July 25, 2023 at 4:01 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 9:34 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Fireball - August 6, 2023 at 10:48 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 7, 2023 at 3:08 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Angrboda - August 7, 2023 at 7:34 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 7, 2023 at 8:09 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 9, 2023 at 10:49 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 9, 2023 at 11:08 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 9, 2023 at 11:30 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 9, 2023 at 11:38 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 10, 2023 at 12:00 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 10, 2023 at 12:08 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 10, 2023 at 7:53 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 10, 2023 at 8:20 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 10, 2023 at 8:42 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Belacqua - August 10, 2023 at 8:54 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2023 at 11:17 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Angrboda - August 10, 2023 at 11:01 am
RE: A question about Thomism - by Bucky Ball - August 10, 2023 at 9:17 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by LinuxGal - August 10, 2023 at 9:34 pm
RE: A question about Thomism - by Bucky Ball - August 10, 2023 at 9:41 pm

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