(December 16, 2011 at 5:00 pm)Chuck Wrote: Fine tuning is not talking how much of our universe happen to be habitable to known life given the current circumstances.
I know - I've done the song and dance of doing more proper responses to this arguement, but the idea is that the very idea of a 'fine-tuned' universe to be flawed.
We simply have no data on any range of possible universes and the multiverse theory doesn't offer any viable alteratives. Multiverse theory (depending on who you talk to - I have issues with a lot of quantum and string theory because some of their adherants seem to like to make rather fantastical leaps) doesn't really offer anything new in this regard. At best, if we knew the full range of possible universes from this theory (and the statistics on life possibility in each one), then we could see just how possible life was, but multiverse theory doesn't do much other than say that quantum particles can take all possible paths - the paths are just new universes.
So given how flawed the 'fine-tuned' wharbl garbl is, multiverse as it is adds nothing to that discussion.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
