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Is atheism foolish?
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 17, 2023 at 9:01 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 16, 2023 at 6:48 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: “The only position that leaves me with no cognitive dissonance is atheism. It is not a creed. Death is certain, replacing both the siren-song of paradise and the dread of hell. Life on earth, with all its mystery and beauty and pain, is then to be lived far more intensely: We stumble and get up, we are sad, confident, insecure, feel loneliness and joy and love. There is nothing more; but I want nothing more.” (Christopher Hitchens)  Read

Not sure why you wouldn't want to live another life if you enjoy being alive. Reincarnation is a real thing. God is real too but only the truly simple-minded are going to have any real faith in Him, which is fine for them.

The burden of proof lies on he who alleges. Religious people should know that I’m perfectly willing to believe in god(s), ghosts, mediums, demons, angels, spirits, channeling, miracles, horoscopes, astrology, psychics, Ouija boards, the supernatural, and anything else for that matter as long as they adhere to one proviso: Prove it! Don’t give me speculation, guesses, hopes, dreams, wishes, desires, beliefs, faith (or appeals to faith), or indoctrinations. Don’t give me one-time-only, non-repeatable, non-testable events. Don’t give me internal alterations in one’s psychology or physiology that can’t be tested observed, or demonstrated, only felt or believed. And don’t give me effects that can’t be clearly related to the supposed cause.

I have no objection to believing in a god as long as proof based upon a rational standard of knowledge is forthcoming. Is that too much to ask? But surely theists can’t expect me to adopt their beliefs on the basis of what has been presented thus far. Every “proof” I’ve heard and every piece of evidence I’ve seen for the existence of god(s) is easily countered by rational evidence and arguments to the contrary. No convincing evidence for the existence of any deity has ever emerged. But I’m more than willing to listen to theistic arguments or view theistic evidence as long as cross-examination is permitted. As conditions now stand, theology rests far more on superstition and faith than upon facts and reason.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 16, 2023 at 4:20 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by zebo-the-fat - August 16, 2023 at 4:26 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 16, 2023 at 4:39 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by no one - August 16, 2023 at 4:41 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 16, 2023 at 6:48 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2023 at 11:10 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Nanny - August 16, 2023 at 1:50 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Bucky Ball - August 16, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Simon Moon - August 16, 2023 at 6:22 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 16, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gwaithmir - August 16, 2023 at 6:48 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 17, 2023 at 9:01 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by h4ym4n - August 17, 2023 at 9:29 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 17, 2023 at 9:35 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by h4ym4n - August 17, 2023 at 9:51 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 17, 2023 at 9:54 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 17, 2023 at 10:56 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 17, 2023 at 11:34 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by h4ym4n - August 17, 2023 at 12:47 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 17, 2023 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by h4ym4n - August 17, 2023 at 1:41 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gwaithmir - August 17, 2023 at 6:23 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 17, 2023 at 6:33 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Ahriman - August 18, 2023 at 12:23 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Bucky Ball - August 17, 2023 at 9:22 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 17, 2023 at 8:44 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gwaithmir - August 18, 2023 at 7:04 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 16, 2023 at 9:41 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 17, 2023 at 9:32 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 17, 2023 at 9:32 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 17, 2023 at 10:45 pm
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Bucky Ball - August 17, 2023 at 11:11 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 17, 2023 at 9:09 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 20, 2023 at 9:54 pm
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 6:52 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 6:48 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:27 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:29 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:32 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:33 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 7:34 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:29 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:32 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:34 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:41 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 7:45 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by FrustratedFool - August 21, 2023 at 7:54 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 8:36 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by h4ym4n - August 21, 2023 at 8:54 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 9:17 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 10:22 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 9:44 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 9:50 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 9:51 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 9:54 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by HappySkeptic - August 21, 2023 at 10:32 am
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RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Disagreeable - August 21, 2023 at 10:34 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by MarcusA - August 21, 2023 at 10:56 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 21, 2023 at 11:09 am
RE: Is atheism foolish? - by Gwaithmir - September 8, 2023 at 10:11 am
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