(August 21, 2023 at 9:50 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(August 21, 2023 at 9:33 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Surely the most moral position (from within xtianity) is that everyone is forgiven, becomes good, and lives in bliss forever?"Forgiveness" is the get out of sin free card. You can be an utter cocksucker and go to Heaven. You don't have to pay for your sins, you just run away from them. Killed two hundred babies? God forgives you!
Yes, that's right. But that seems 'fair' from a restorative justice or utilitarian POV, and only unfair from a retributive POV.
Again, what's the value of using violence upon someone who has truly changed their behaviour and character, except to appease the vengeance emotions of others?