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Egyptian funerary texts
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RE: Egyptian funerary texts
(December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am)Shell B Wrote: By saying this? “The rest go to live happily in the “Gods’ place.”
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Either my English is too bad, or you argue for the sake of argument.
I wrote: The judgment takes place just before death, but only for the unlucky ones who failed to pass the test and were executed. The rest go to live happily in the “Gods’ place.” Those who go to live in the Neter-khert, the “Gods’ place,” are people alive. I think I made it clear that the texts are describing judgment of people alive by people alive (go above and read what Plato wrote) and the life referred to is the life after judgment and not the life after death.

(December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am)Shell B Wrote: So, we went from "Egyptians do not believe in the afterlife" to "Egyptians are the only culture that believes in the afterlife."
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When citing do not forget the context!
The Egyptian people did not believe in after life. The last 3,000 years of their history the Egyptian priesthood preached the afterlife nonsense.

There are golden plates, or tablets, written in the ancient Greek language that, imitating Egyptian traditions, were placed into the graves. They were of orphic origin. Orphics believed in the afterlife but they could not force their beliefs upon the entire Greek population as the priesthood could and did in Egypt or the Christians did later in Greece and the rest of Europe.

So what are we going to say, that the ancient Greeks believed in afterlife because of the silly beliefs of the orhics and some idealist philosophers? No we do not! Then why don’t we do the same distinction for the Egyptians?

Because scholars have no idea of what the funerary texts are about. That is why!

(December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am)Shell B Wrote: No, but burying them with things they will presumably need in the afterlife is evidence of belief in the afterlife.
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Sure, the collar I buried my dog with he is going to use in his afterlife!!

(December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am)Shell B Wrote: Besides, the killing of the first born was not part of their culture. It is part of mythology that came later.
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Most probably they are still killing the firstborns. Reading the “Golden Bough” is a must!

(December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am)Shell B Wrote: You are arguing that Egyptians did not believe in the afterlife whilst saying that they believed the dead lived in the afterlife.
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Yes! This remark of yours is entirely justified but it was not me who translated the Egyptian term “m(w)t” as “dead.” It was the translations of the Egyptologists whose books were published by the...Oxford University Press.
m(w)t does not mean “dead” because dead people do not have sex!!

(December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am)Shell B Wrote: Besides, believing that the dead live in an afterlife kind of promotes the idea that they have some other vessel, as they Egyptians clearly knew that the bodies didn't just up and leave.
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Can you give me an example of such a vessel?
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Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 9, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Anomalocaris - December 9, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 10, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by houseofcantor - December 15, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 16, 2011 at 2:12 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 2:20 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 16, 2011 at 3:27 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 16, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 16, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 3:39 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Erinome - December 16, 2011 at 6:40 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 16, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 16, 2011 at 6:57 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 17, 2011 at 3:20 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 17, 2011 at 3:25 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 17, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 17, 2011 at 7:59 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 18, 2011 at 6:38 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 18, 2011 at 6:50 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 18, 2011 at 8:32 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2011 at 10:48 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 18, 2011 at 11:33 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 18, 2011 at 12:53 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 18, 2011 at 12:55 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 18, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 18, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 18, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Shell B - December 18, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 18, 2011 at 4:12 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 19, 2011 at 1:09 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2011 at 1:16 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 19, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 19, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 19, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 19, 2011 at 2:25 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 19, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 19, 2011 at 2:37 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 20, 2011 at 12:55 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 1:59 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Minimalist - December 21, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 22, 2011 at 2:56 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 10:12 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 10:26 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 10:31 am
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 22, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 22, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Egyptian funerary texts - by dtango - December 23, 2011 at 3:16 am

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