(September 6, 2023 at 7:02 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote:(September 6, 2023 at 6:36 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You've shown no such thing.
Your premises are arbitrary and capricious, with no foundation laid for either, and in fact appear to both be random statements.
Premise 1 Let's say Bob can fly.
Premise 2 Some people say all birds can fly.
Conclusion : Bob is a bird.
Statement 1: karma (as described by Hindus, Buddhists, Jains) exists
Statement 2: there existed a sentient being who suffered before any other sentient being suffered
Premise 1: statement 1 and statement 2 cannot both be true
Premise 2: statement 2 is true
Conclusion: statement 1 is not true
Your conclusion that Bob is a bird does not follow from the premises you provided. My conclusion does follow from the premises I provided.
Wrong. The conclusion could possibly be true according to my premises.
Your definitions never included a "sentient being" which is why I attempted to get you to define what a "being is". You didn't.
You failed. You're off my list. Life is way too short to mess with fools like you.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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