RE: Argument against atheism
December 18, 2011 at 9:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2011 at 9:43 pm by Erinome.)
(December 18, 2011 at 9:13 pm)amkerman Wrote: Rhythm, for the hundredth time... a belief in any sort of objective truth outside of human perception necessitates consciousness as a primary function of the universe.
You think the world revolves around you, and your ability to notice it exists? Arrogant, stupid.
Quote:A belief that consciousness as a primary function of the universe would most correctly be termed as a belief in a monotheistic deity.
But neither belief is necessarily correct at all, or even a little.
Quote:It is illogical to claim that one believes iin any sort of objective morality or truth and also claim that one doesn't believe in "God". Therefor, any belef that some things are inherently good or bad can not exist in a truly atheistic worldview.
What makes you think you're moral? Do moral people go around saying people are too dumb to know what's good and bad because they don't believe in a specific deity? Atheism isn't a worldview. You want it to be one, but it doesn't matter because it's just not.
Quote:I have never claimed or told anyone what to believe, I have never stated that consciousness is infact a primary function of the universe. It seems to me that since humanity and science for the most part agrees that things actually exist and are true and real independent of human perception, consciousness is a primary function of the universe.
You're full of over thought, and still empty assumptions.
Quote:Therefore, atheism is incorrect.
Evidence? Still have seen none. You're still just handing us your personal opinion, and we still have no valid reason to consider what you're asserting is anything more than your opinion.
Quote:It is entirely possible that I am wrong, that consciousness is in fact not a primary function of the universe but rather an emergent function of complex systems such as the brain.
Glad you're admitting it. You're probably very wrong.
Quote:If that is the case, however, then things are not inherently good or bad, nothing has any "real" value besides the subjective value that humanity ascribes them. It may be that feelings and morality are purely human constructs and that nothing has any value at all.
What would be so bad about that? Are you not enjoying your life? Feelings and morality are not purely human constructs. Many animals have exhibited signs that they have feelings and morals. I recently posted a thread about empathetic mice. Humans are animals too, ya know.
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