(October 19, 2023 at 4:36 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:Dayum, how can someone like Winter can be so ignorant?(October 19, 2023 at 3:49 am)WinterHold Wrote: I get you, the current government needs a war it can win, even if the enemy was a militia stranded in a strip of land. After all, Biden is in it to make the headlines back home,
If the enemy is a guerrilla force that's managed to convince the surrounding population that it's somehow the lesser evil, that's EXACTLY the sort of enemy that keeps beating the US military. And it's not even because it's got Allah on its side or anything like that (because the Viet Cong did the same fucking thing and they sure as shit weren't Muslim), but because every time you cut the head off this hydra, a couple new ones are going to pop up in its place.
The issue with the USA (and EVERY other country) and its PROFESSIONAL army vs guerillas like in Vietnam, Afghanistan, ISIS, Al Quaida, etc, is this:
A war can be won by either side, or can be a kind of "indecisive draw". Those are the three options, in general.
The regular (external/invading) army only wins when it actually wins.
The (domestic) guerillia wins as long as it does not lose.*
In other words: Out of three options (army win, guerilla win or "draw") , the guerilla actually wins in two of three cases.
The USA werent technicall beaten in Afghanistan (as well as the Red Army back in the 80s) or anywhere else** . But they could not win either. So they withdrew (or were forced to withdraw if you like that phrase better), avoidong to waste money or resoures on something that never will give any return on the investment.
Its really fucking painful to have to read someone like Winter, having the comprehension and insight of a 3y old, pontificating about the nature of international conflicts. Its really painful.
*as evidenced in Vietnam, the guerilla factually, militarily can "lose" (the Tet offensive was DEVASTATING to the Vietcong), but still can win, because it keeps the WILL to fight. Same for Hannibal and the Romans. Rome was defeated after Cannae, period. A large part of the nobility was killed, and the bottom of the barrel for recruiting new legions was reached. But Rome refused to acknowledge/accept this. It outlasted Carthages will to support Hannibal.
**Korea maybe being an exception. But Kim Il Sung was supported by the Chinese army
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