(October 30, 2023 at 9:21 am)FrustratedFool Wrote:(October 30, 2023 at 9:10 am)Angrboda Wrote: This seems like a rather suspect claim. What is your evidence?
Good catch. Let me re-phrase with greater precision:
If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, I believe my life would have been better, because various negative life events and experiences that happened to me, certain decisions I made with deleterious effect, certain activities I engaged in that resulted in harm, which were motivated in very large part by religious conviction, would most likely not have been instantiated, and it seems reasonable to hold, based upon previous conduct and common sense, to the idea that without those motivating convictions I would have far more likely have made alternative choices and consequently experienced a life I would subjectively deem as better (I use choice here in its subjective experiential sense).
For example, if I refused medicine based upon religious convictions and my health suffered as a result, then I think it reasonable to say that my life would have been better without the influence of religion. Likewise if I suffered religious abuse, or conversion therapy, or had an unwanted child, or stayed in an abusive relationship, or didn't persue educational or employment opportunities, or hurt others, etc.
Hope that helps clarify my statement.
I was more interested in the many part.