Palestine

[Leonardo17]

Here is another interesting Comment by Ali İbrahimi (Newsweek):
 
If the tables were turned and Palestine were the occupier, the Palestinians would be implored to stop bombing the homes, schools, houses of worship and evacuation zones of a captive and impoverished population. They would be urged to revive a political pathway for ending the occupation so that all can live in peace and with dignity. And so that extremists in Palestine, Israel and beyond can be marginalized and frozen out.
 
https://www.newsweek.com/even-hamas-atro...on-1839958
 

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My view is that Bombs alone will not solve anything by themselves. See after WWI Germany was humiliated by the allies and treated like some sort of colony in some place in Africa. This caused the Germans to become really desperate and made them vulnerable to populist propaganda. Hitler was even put to prison during that time. But this resulted in even more support for Hitler, especially from the German conservative elites who longed for the country’s would-be glory in imperial times.
 
After WWII however, the allies did the opposite. They actively participated in the rebuilding of defeated countries like Japan and Germany (making them the second and third economic power of the world in the 80’s and 90’s). They also started the Marshall Plan, all over Europe, to create some sort of future and development to all these regions that had been devastated by war.
 
The Result was a stable and unified Europe, that leaves a limited space for populism to exist, that has become unified enough to even integrate countries that were a part of the communist block and absorb migration shocks generated far from its borders in places like Syria and Afghanistan.
 
So I am suspicious on certain things. I believe that Israel + the USA have backed political Islamist movements all over the world in the past and turned it into the super-beast it has become today (in an effort to counteract Moscow’s influence in the region in the 80’s and 70’s). So this has to stop. Now political Islam has clearly turned into some sort of communist block, or third Reich of it’s own (if you are willing to see things straight). So this has to be understood very well.
 
2) This whole “Muslim Geography” has to be dealled with. I don’t know if it takes the form of aid or assistance of some sort. You can’t just have some spoiled elites who live on Oil and Gas revenues with many generations of people who are completely uneducated, stricken by poverty and totally open to anti-Semitic / Political Islamist propaganda. This cannot simply go on like this anymore.
 
And: That’s what Zionist extremism wants as well: If the whole region is like this. If the average Arab remains as a bigot with 4 wife’s and 20 or so children, they won’t have a problem dehumanizing them and say things like “Yeah, I killed children in Gaza, but see, half of them are children anyways”
 
- I think the world lost many opportunities that were offered by the Secular leaders of the Past. This Jamal Abdel Nasser (died:1970) was one these opportunities in the past:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamal_Abdel_Nasser
 
This Ahmad Shah Messoud (who was assassinated by political Islamists a few days before 9/11) was another such opportunity:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud
 
His son is still resisting the Taliban. And I’m sure he is not getting the same kind of support as Vlodimyr Zellensky.
 
The saddest event is that of the FLN (Algerian Liberation Front: 1954-1962). Some 400,000 people died in order to end the French occupation / colonization. Thousand had to be relocated. Those who had collaborated with the French Army were butchered etc. Yet, today all they have is a weak and corrupt government with an increasing presence of political Islam in all levels of life. Bars and night-life outlets are said to have been closed.
 
The only ones who are doing relatively well are Morocco + Saudi Arabia and its satellites. But these last one are a problem to the world because of their way of doing things.
 
So I don’t know about the method to be used. All I know is that, people living in these places are still people. And many (younger generations in particular) will not reject the prospect of change. And no war is going to make anything better.
 
See: Lebanon for instance is a dead man walking. The whole state apparatus has collapsed. Today many Sub-Saharan African countries are in a better place then say, Egypt or Libya.
 
So I believe in some sort of international conference on this, with the cooperation and participation of China and other major economies like Brazil for instance. The entire area needs to be geo-engineered from top to bottom. Than you can create a secular / strong government in Palestine. Then there can be negotiation and durable peace with Israel.
 
But does Israel want that?
- Probably not. They want us to become like animals, to not receive any type of compassion from the rest of the world. Thus continue their colonization of all of Palestine. That’s how I would think If I was them.
 
But the issue is this: This is starting to hit me in a very serious manner. I’m being ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood since 23 years now. I cannot Say Turkey was such a wonderful place in the 90’s and 80’s. But I can see how political Islamists are getting organized and gradually putting us on a path of becoming a more middle-eastern state.

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And one thing I can say on this is: We don’t want that. I don’t want to be something like east-European countries in 1920’s and 1930’s that were meant to serve as a quarantine line against Bolshevism. We all sort of want to live our live and the hell with this type of Zionism and the hell with Political Islam which are nothing but the Yin and Yang of middle-eastern religious populism.