RE: God vs Science
December 21, 2011 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2011 at 3:33 pm by Welsh cake.)
(December 21, 2011 at 1:15 pm)jimenez Wrote: What is God? God is spirit, therefore he is more than natural.What is spirit? And what about other theists who argue God isn't spirit but reality, the natural world itself?
Quote:He is supernatural.What are the limits, scope and square-bounds of natural? Unless you properly define natural, supernatural is meaningless. I can just as easily throw in "Hypernatural" in there for your consideration too. I can propose the Invisible Pink Unicorn is greater than God because she is greater than supernatural.
Quote:There are different bodies in the world. There is the natural human body, animal bodies, fish bodies, and then there is the spiritual body.That's bullshit. The word "BODY" means the PHYSICAL structure of a person or an animal, including the bones, flesh, and organs. You do not get to have your own contrived definition of the word "Body".
Quote:God has revealed that he is eternal, no beginning and no end.The universe and time itself has a bigining and therefore one day an end.No, you are trying to argue from causality which is fallacious and erroneous when you try to apply it to cosmogony and consider that there is no before the Big Bang event. There was no time or space but some sort of "quantum singularity". It is senseless to describe events in time before or after time. You can't go further back than before inflation and quantum fluctuations because when you approach the Planck epoch/Grand unification epoch physics no longer makes sense.
The universe may have always existed in some form or other, it may have no "beginning" or "end". It may be infinite. The laws of nature such as potential wells and zero-point energy mean energy is indestructible. True absolute zero where it could be theorised that taking all the energy out of matter until it ceases to be can never be attained by thermodynamic means because of said laws of thermodynamics. That's why a lot of theists namely pandeists are proponents of the popular idea that "God" is the actual Universe, therefore everyone and everything is "God" simply having fun and/or masturbating.
Quote:The bible itself is not a regular common Book.Its just a book, written by man.
Quote:Isaac Newton studied the bible and discovered that it was written in a mathematical puzzle or code.Why do Christians always making appeals to authority with Isaac Newton? The man although influential to say the least doesn't excuse the fact that was a complete and utter petty little TWAT, hardly a role model for anyone, and quite possibly a plagiarist too, but that's open to debate.
Oh, and Albert Einstein was painfully intellectually dishonest when it came to confessing that he had de-converted to atheism to his Jewish peers.
Quote:God Bless.Closing your BS with 'God-Damn', 'Zeus Punish' or "Thor Hammers Nails" carries just about as much weight. >.>