(March 8, 2024 at 9:45 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(March 8, 2024 at 9:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Laying guilt upon the one of the most basic human drives is a good way to control people.
No doubt, but WHY do they want to control people? To what end?
We have to control our sexual drives. It's part of civilization.
Freud's book Civilization and its Discontents is really good on this, and pessimistic. He points to an unresolvable paradox: to live happily we need civilization, and civilization requires control of nature, including human nature. But since humans are pretty much irrational unlimited desiring machines, any control is felt as oppression.
So we need control to be happy, but we hate it.
The limits and forms of control change over time. What civilization allows and approves of changes. And of course which institutions get to impose that control is also a matter of ongoing debate.