(July 3, 2009 at 12:39 am)Arcanus Wrote: It contradicts the omnipotence of God to pretend something is beyond his control, and contradicts his omniscience to pretend he didn't see something coming. You can create a God that is more to your liking, but don't try pretending it's the God of Christian theism.
Well said Arcanus. Back when I was a Theist, my interpretation of God from my studies of the bible wasn't all feely touchy nice and certainly was above what mere humans considered "good" and "right" which I have long held as relative terms. Yes, god aced 151 people and allowed one to live. Does that make the survivor special? Well...
(July 2, 2009 at 2:28 pm)bozo Wrote: The survivor's father is quoted as saying " I can't say it's a miracle, I can say that it is God's will ".
To the father, the survivor is special so he is happy with how (as I see it) them bones rolled, and he calls it God's will. The way I read that qoute is the father IS ackowledging the "bad" of the situation by NOT labeling it a miracle and also paying homage to his God by mentioning his will. Whether the father would see the 151 people who lost their lives as "victims" of God or "saved" remains unclear.
@Pippy I've read a bunch of your posts and there are some coherent bits but you are all over the map with how you debate; attacking the way people are talking about a topic? Seems a laborious undertaking to defend the method of debate along with the actual argument at hand. I would qoute you and talk about specifics but it would be like searching out specific noodles in a plate of spaghetti and I've already had lunch. It would be cool if you could just serve up the meetballs that I have seen in some of your posts. I don't really want to get into a pissing contest with you because we will both end up wet and smelling of urine, I just thought I would let you know how I viewed you, for whatever THAT's worth.
Rhizo
