Quote:I'm quite a fan of conspiracy theories in the sense that I like to see them as thought experiments (of course, excluding the obvious nonsense like lizard people). The Illuminati is one conspiracy theory I love in particular.I'm not sure about some sort of an "illuminated" people founding a cult and conducting rituals and campaigning for some new worldwide order.
But I think that there is already a "world order" around the world that was new during the time of the collapse of the soviet union.
And that world order is the USA.
Quote:Essentially, for those who don't know, the Illuminati theory states that the entire world is controlled in secret by the richest, most powerful individuals in the world, who manipulate the masses using subliminal messaging in modern media. Their goal is to create a "New World Order", a united world controlled by them. Their roots go back to their founding in Bavaria, and they have links with groups across history such as the Knights Templar, the Priori of Sion etc etc.I'm not sure if this is a conspiracy or not. The rich and powerful already control the world. And they might be masonic or something, but illuminated, they certainly are not more than anyone else is.
Quote:What I want to ask is this: Is a New World Order really that bad?Well, do not want. I would not like to subjugate myself to another.
Especially if it is out in the open for everyone to see.
Quote:Juxtapose this with a distrustful world economy where countries are constantly in disagreement (Euro debt crisis) and igniting wars (need I raise examples?).What if these "illuminati" guys are causing all of these?
Why would I want to be ruled by them?
Quote:We see divided interests and hence individualistic, selfish motivations, that hinder any attempt at global coordination (look at the UN!).We do, but I don't think this will change with a "new world order".
Quote:Would it not be relieving to see a world finally united? What's more, a world united across religion, race or language by nothing short of an idea. Would it not be admirable for humanity to stand together, for once, against our ultimate enemy: our own helplessness?No, I would certainly not be subjugate to anyone else but my own, even if it's "humanity" itself.
And I'm sure there are a lot of others who could say the same.
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