Does the Quran support Theocracy?

[Leonardo17]

That’s an interesting point:
“Tell me about your heaven and I’ll tell you what you are missing in life”
 
Still: I’m not so sure that science and technology is going to solve everything for us.
 
I mean: Are we the most gifted generation that has ever existed?
 
My Grandparents needed to go to a public bath for instance. Did anyone here ever go to a public bath in his/her lifetime?
 
Yet: We are not that happy. I don’t know about you but I always look forward to the next good thing in my life. Advertisement is pushing all sorts of useless stuff into our hands. And many are simply too caught-up in this game.
 
So spiritually come and says: “Wait a minute. Just stop for a second and be here now”. We might lengthen this debate if you like, but that’s what I see in it.
 
The accomplishments of major civilizations are not myths. We are able to go there and observe them (though historical records and archaeology of course).
 
But what I said about Ancient Egypt is something I could say for the Arab civilization of the Middle Ages. Within history there are those highly advanced societies that could harbor a man like me without killing me in a few months from an infectious disease and/or burning me alive by accusing me of incarnating demons. All that I said was that I would not miss the 20:00 news of this civilization that much. Nor would I miss the alienation, the pollution, massive cities on concrete…
 
Just look at our cities: No civilization has ever built anything that ugly. + Going from one edge of London to the other edge in the 19th century was easier and faster than today.

I’m not saying it would not be difficult. But I don’t think I would shed a tear for not being able to return to the 21st century.

Nothing is going to solve everything for us.  The idea that any one thing ever could solve all of our complicated and disparate issues can't really be described as anything other than stunted and childish thinking.  So, too, the idea that failing to have solved all things is meaningful.  Science didn't win the battle for hearts and minds, even the hearts and minds of believers, because it solved all of our problems.   Rather, because spirituality had solved none.  Are we the most gifted generation?  Yes.  By any metric, up to and including the depth and variety of spirituality afforded to us, no less.  It's not that the accomplishments of major civilizations are a myth, but that we create myths in our own minds that are not accurate representations of those civilizations.  As you've done with egypt and the ummah.  

I'm sorry you don't like whatever commercials are playing in your country.  It's a shame that you don't appreciate the architectural style of london....but.....so what?  What's stopping you from living in a mud hut in a swamp like an egytian farmer?  Is there no place sufficiently islamic for you to go and play out fantasies about the ummah?  You have the choice to do these things if you wanted, and even that..the simple choice..was something the real people in question didn't possess.  If you had to face their lives you would quickly decide that shit was for the birds and seek out an alternative, but they'd just tell you that's the way things were.

It's bad enough when a person is convinced that some garbage ideology is the highest ideal, it's even worse when they have to make up shit about the past to justify their beliefs in present.

I do not disagree with any of this. 

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If you like reading about the Rover Perseverance for instance. I remember how exited I was when I was reading (/hearing /seeing) about the rover pathfinder back in the 90’s. It takes about 8 minute for those robots to get whatever radio command signal is issued from earth. And it’s mainly based on a Soviet Lunar Rover Lunokhood that goes back to the 70’s. And still, they are now working with Elon Musk-like companies to send a robot-rocket to Mars, collect the specimens that are currently being collected by Perseverance, Put it on Martian orbit, ship it back to earth and then analyze it, to see if by any chance life has started on Mars a few billion years ago, at the same time as Earth.
 
That alone is such a love story. As you put it, it’s everything mysticism isn’t. But as I said, true mysticism usually acknowledges this “reality” about science. When Sadhguru was asked if it was karma (destiny) that a man was currently on a wheelchair, he said “No, the reason for that is probably that he didn’t get a polio vaccine when he was a child”. The word “Karma” actually means “action”. By the way Sadh guru has a brain surgery last month or so. He didn’t try to heal it through bio energies and/or prayer for instance.
 
   But don’t get me wrong, The Church of Religious science (for instance) says that “This world is not real, only God is real, so what matters is what you believe in, not the physical medicine”. There was a religious group in the US who simply refuse to take medicine and try to heal through prayer. This is not it. But we sort of believe in things like playing therapeutic music to the sick, sending Reiki energy to the sick, praying on behalf of the sick, praying together with the sick or making visualizations about the sick can and does contribute to their healing. There was even a proposition, before the invasion of Iraq by George W. Bush, to send advanced meditators to the Middle East, to try to raise the energy level of this geography (and therefore promote peace in the region).
 
   Not everyone agrees with this type of belief in our current technology-oriented civilization. But tell me: What did the US achieve militarily in the Middle-East through physical intervention?
 
- So I believe that Egyptians were like quite advanced in these things. And there are parallels to that at least in Ancient India. The Vedas are also conveying some very intriguing stories (like the stories of Homer) about Kings and Rulers who lived in a world in which everything we see as “supernatural” was actual reality. Like the story of King Arthur for Instance.
 
All of this is to say that the Egyptians were not just some farmer civilization on the shore of the Nile. In my view, they knew about everything we now see as “Alternative medicine” and more. They had no colonoscopy but they could magnetize you to try to understand your ailment. Like the doctors of Ancient Greece, with the only difference that these guys were real.
 
Besides, they believed in Maat. Which is the principle of justice. The Pharaoh’s main purpose was to make the spirit of Maat rule over the entire country.
 
So all those ruins and the Sphinx for instance are not able to talk. So I am sort of trying to talk for them and give them a voice.
 
I mean none of these people had thoughts like “Oh we are so pathetically primitive today, why don’t we kill ourselves and reincarnate in a few millennia”. Each and every one of them thought that they were the most advanced state of mankind (which they were in that time), and considered themselves quite lucky of being whoever they were back in those days.
 
So back to our subject: The challenges we are facing now are huge. Mr Michio Kaku was one enumerating the powers humanity had acquired (citing an old Japanese deity for each one of them). Well, it doesn’t mean anything if we have all those powers and more if we go extinct in few decades does it?
 
My proposal is that maybe spirituality is also trying to teach of something. What if Sadhguru is right and we are like this infant who is sitting on the floor with a very sharp knife in its hand?
 
I think there are many elements about us that is pointing out to the fact that yes, indeed, this might be the case and that we might be at a point in which we have to take this evolutionary step.
 
And as I said: You don’t need to adhere to any religious group or dogma to do that. In fact, philosophy (ordinary philosophy) and some amount of intellectualism is able to get you there too. I prefer spirituality, because I see it as letting go of your childhood bicycle and stepping into a real automobile.
 
The universality of this is that God being a phenomenon present in each and every one of us, anybody can take this leap if he or she desires to do so. And in fact, the energies of our times are quite supportive of that too.
 
So with this confidence in me I see no problem in calling out the entirely dogmatic false beliefs that are based on fake spirituality for what they are. My philosophy teacher was referring to this as “Human stupidity”.
 
Example: Last day I saw this guy who was trying to feed stray dogs with some pieces of chicken he had purchased in some place. I told him in a rather friendly manner they he could be infected with salmonella by handling raw meat in that way and the reason why the stray dog was not eating his precious gifts was that it was bad for the dog, That he had to cook the meat first, separate the bones so that the broken bones would not cause injuries in the animal’s digestive system.
 
- He simply ignored me. (He was in this belief system in which he was simply being pious by giving food to those poor beings and I was too much of a scientific minded person to understand the good he was trying to do there). I related this story for anyone is stereotyping Texans: Please come and see human behavior happening in this region first before judging anyone on that.
 

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In my view: Religion and spirituality has been this safe haven for human stupidity. Yet in today’s world, and this is going to increase, it’s anything but that. My feeling is a feeling of someone who is taking this inner journey and who is getting results on a personal and even social level and this is like a good thing in my life and I do have the intention to pursue this even further.
 
And No: “The Dao that is spoken of is not the true Dao”. So not everyone who is claiming to be on a spiritual path is truly on a spiritual path.
 
Example: I don’t believe in hell. But the guy I mentioned above, I really hope there is hell and that he burns in it for what he did (and is probably still doing as we speak).