RE: Hello soulcalm17
July 16, 2024 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2024 at 11:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 16, 2024 at 6:29 am)soulcalm17 Wrote:(July 16, 2024 at 1:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's only a problem if you keep insisting. This literally has nothing to do with me, whether or not gods exist, or what anyone knows about islam. The idea that it would be impossible for humans to have written the quran is plainly and absurdly false. This is either a you problem..or an islam problem. Correctable without damage to the religion of islam by correcting yourself. Or not correctable without damage to islam because islam itself is in error.
It looks like you've decided what hill islam has to die on. I think, that you should rethink this position.
Okay, so you insist that it had been made up by human, whatever impossible the condition was. Because you didn't believe other entity that are also intelligent and could made it. Only human can made it. As long as you can't point out and explain which verses could possibly made by human, then its an absurd proposition.
Every...single...verse...could have been made by humans. The whole enchilada, as I said last time you asked. There's nothing absurd about the proposition that human beings can be responsible for any piece of literature. It is absurd, however, that it would be impossible for any piece of literature to be made by humans. This is either you exaggerating your case, or islam being factually incorrect.
We could go through why your reasons for believing this are deficient..but what would the point be if we can't agree on simple things like "what word mean"...? Take your insistence, for example - that magic book couldn't come from humans because Big Mo was illiterate. We already know that Big Mo didn't write the quran. It was cobbled together after his death by many sources from even more sources recollections of things he said over the course of his life..allegedly. Whether or not he could read or write doesn't matter at all, as we know the people who actually put magic book together could. This will likely not sway you, but it's a direct defeater for the suggestion unless you mean something other than what you say when you offer it. Just like the notion that islam is true because it would be impossible for humans to have written the quran has direct and inarguable defeaters...unless you mean something other than what you're saying..when you say that.
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