RE: To All
August 5, 2024 at 12:56 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2024 at 12:57 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(August 4, 2024 at 10:27 pm)soulcalm17 Wrote: Changes in form/qualities is a sign of anything that have beginning. For virtual particles: you just don't know yet the cause. For hot dense state of big bang: you just don't know yet where did it came from. Of course it is impossible to see the beginning of universe, while we're stuck in present time.
Now, these chain of cause, certainly has to be end. And we didn't ask anymore where did it come from, because it is a prime cause/fundamental stuff. That ending of cause, is only logically and rationally have qualities of living and intelligent, thus it has a will and plan. If otherwise, then we belief in magic. I would prefer believe in unseen entity that have those qualities rather than believe in unknown magic that has no rational explanation.
That the chain of causality has to end is an assertion supported by no evidence. Our intution doesn't like an endless chain of causality, but reality is under no obligation to conform to our intuition and has often demonstrated that it doesn't. God doesn't negate the problem: If a God caused everything and yet had no beginning, having existed for eternity in the past, it would have had an infinited expanse of time to pass through before starting the universe. If it did anything it had an infinity of things to do and if it did nothing it had an infinity of time to do nothing in before creating the universe.
And you have to show that if the universe had a cause, it wasn't a natural event. And calling such a natural event magic doesn't make it magic. It takes more than something not being understood to make it magic.
And believing something because you would prefer it to be true isn't rational. There are many things I would prefer to be true that just aren't, because reality doesn't care what we prefer.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.