RE: Veganism
August 14, 2024 at 11:36 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2024 at 11:45 pm by Fake Messiah.)
The Grand Nudger Wrote:For most of human history people starved on little more than bread. I think that anyone who wants to change the way we view or eat or produce food ought to be careful invoking a mythical past where people were Just Fine Thanx without all the food options we have today.
Thing is that people today are the ones who are starving. Talk to any dietitian and he'll tell you that people in the US are malnourished and also overeating themselves to death.
Go into any store and almost all of the food you can buy is junk: it's designed to make you hungry and eat more. Now, is that a coincidence or is there some industry behind it who will encourage you to keep buying this useless food with pride?
The Grand Nudger Wrote:It is weird and cultish, btw, to assume the things casually suggested so far account for why we raise livestock. We obviously care more than any other species and more than at any other time for our own species and the meat industry tricked precisely no one into enjoying steak.
And yet, I said the opposite. I excluded the stake and talked about other meat products. Although, the stake today is not what it used to be but is 50% fat and thus full of cholesterol.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"