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Veganism
RE: Veganism
(September 14, 2024 at 1:08 pm)h311inac311 Wrote:
(September 12, 2024 at 1:57 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: @h311inac311 

Could the serpent do anything yahweh didn’t want it to do?

If so, was yahweh shocked that the serpent evilly trick Eve and totally fucked up yahwehs plan?

How and why would a serpent know and understand HOW to fuck up the creator of everything’s plan?


And finally @h311inac311 , why didn’t jesus show up to save Adam and Eve? Did Yahweh have to rape a human first before jesus can appear as man?

If you can read the story of how Mary got pregnant in the Bible and arrive at the conclusion that God raped her, then that tells me everything I need to know about your Lexile Level.

Not that there's any point in correcting a mocker, since all they will do is mock you for it.

I think the serpent (or Dragon, as Nudger pointed out) had free will and a voice. It wasn't satisfied with peace on Earth so it wanted to see what would happen if it could convince God's people to commit sin.

YHWH did seem surprised, perhaps it is because he chose to turn his back on Adam and Eve to allow them the freedom to choose weather or not to eat of the fruit.
A good leader gives his instructions, makes sure that his subordinates know what they are and then walks away to tend to other matters. It is a show of trust.

To say that they, 'totally fucked up God's plan' is a pretty massive over statement, but if you're this aggressive about getting things wrong then I can't do all of the reading for you.

The Dragon was an Angel who was with God in heaven before descending into the garden, it knew who YHWH was and it knew what his will for man kind was as well. All of this simply boils down to God choosing to allow for every part of his creation to have a choice between obedience and dis-obedience. From the Angels to men and even to some extent animals as well, God gave us a mind to choose. He didn't create us to be robots who are forced to worship him. He didn't put a spell on us so that we would always be under his control.

Therefore, he will hold us accountable for our actions under the sun.

But God didn’t give his creations the ability to understand his instructions. Suppose a Field Marshall was to tell a raw recruit, ‘Make sure you stanifraz the nolneks at least twice every vilk’ and then had the recruit court martialed for not following orders he couldn’t possibly have understood.

Adam and Eve had no knowledge of Good and Evil before eating the fruit - God explicitly denied them that - so the couldn’t possibly have known it was wrong to disobey God.

And, not for nothing, how does an all-powerful, all-knowing God need to ‘walk away to tend to other matters’? You’d think Yahweh would be a dab hand at multi-tasking.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Veganism - by Disagreeable - August 10, 2024 at 3:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Valkyrie - August 10, 2024 at 3:24 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 10, 2024 at 3:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - August 10, 2024 at 3:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by zebo-the-fat - August 10, 2024 at 3:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - August 10, 2024 at 3:52 pm
RE: Veganism - by brewer - August 10, 2024 at 4:56 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - August 10, 2024 at 4:57 pm
RE: Veganism - by no one - August 10, 2024 at 6:15 pm
RE: Veganism - by arewethereyet - August 10, 2024 at 6:56 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - August 10, 2024 at 7:19 pm
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - August 10, 2024 at 8:05 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 10, 2024 at 8:13 pm
RE: Veganism - by CuriosityBob - August 10, 2024 at 8:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by Silver - August 10, 2024 at 9:01 pm
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 1:43 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 1:52 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 2:09 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 2:24 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 2:26 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 2:34 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 2:39 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 2:44 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 2:48 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 3:05 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 3:10 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 3:43 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 3:46 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 5:12 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 5:17 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 5:20 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 5:25 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 5:29 am
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - August 11, 2024 at 5:30 am
RE: Veganism - by MR. Macabre 666 - August 11, 2024 at 3:42 pm
RE: Veganism - by brewer - August 11, 2024 at 4:36 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 4:40 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2024 at 4:52 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 11, 2024 at 5:31 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2024 at 5:58 pm
RE: Veganism - by AFTT47 - August 12, 2024 at 12:52 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2024 at 4:15 pm
RE: Veganism - by AFTT47 - August 13, 2024 at 7:52 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2024 at 8:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by arewethereyet - August 13, 2024 at 8:33 pm
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - August 13, 2024 at 8:54 pm
RE: Veganism - by AFTT47 - August 14, 2024 at 12:49 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2024 at 1:41 am
RE: Veganism - by paulpablo - August 14, 2024 at 2:16 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 14, 2024 at 5:42 am
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - August 14, 2024 at 6:56 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 20, 2024 at 12:49 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2024 at 8:28 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - August 14, 2024 at 10:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - August 14, 2024 at 11:36 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - August 15, 2024 at 12:13 am
RE: Veganism - by arewethereyet - August 15, 2024 at 5:10 am
RE: Veganism - by Ahriman - August 15, 2024 at 4:31 am
RE: Veganism - by arewethereyet - August 14, 2024 at 8:49 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2024 at 5:29 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2024 at 11:58 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2024 at 1:01 am
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 20, 2024 at 12:35 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2024 at 1:34 pm
RE: Veganism - by Sheldon - August 20, 2024 at 4:09 pm
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 28, 2024 at 10:06 am
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - August 28, 2024 at 11:08 am
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 28, 2024 at 11:10 am
RE: Veganism - by h4ym4n - August 29, 2024 at 11:47 am
RE: Veganism - by h4ym4n - August 29, 2024 at 11:44 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2024 at 3:34 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 29, 2024 at 3:50 pm
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - September 12, 2024 at 7:18 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2024 at 10:22 am
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 28, 2024 at 11:09 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2024 at 11:22 am
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - August 28, 2024 at 11:17 am
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 28, 2024 at 11:38 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 28, 2024 at 12:31 pm
RE: Veganism - by h4ym4n - August 29, 2024 at 11:53 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2024 at 11:42 am
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 28, 2024 at 4:51 pm
RE: Veganism - by arewethereyet - August 28, 2024 at 11:42 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 28, 2024 at 12:30 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2024 at 4:56 pm
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - August 28, 2024 at 7:42 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - August 28, 2024 at 7:45 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2024 at 7:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 29, 2024 at 3:50 am
RE: Veganism - by zebo-the-fat - August 29, 2024 at 6:34 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2024 at 11:00 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2024 at 7:08 pm
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - August 29, 2024 at 7:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2024 at 8:56 pm
RE: Veganism - by Silver - August 29, 2024 at 8:23 pm
RE: Veganism - by Ahriman - September 12, 2024 at 7:29 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2024 at 10:30 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2024 at 2:06 am
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - September 12, 2024 at 7:05 am
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - September 12, 2024 at 7:36 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 12, 2024 at 12:27 pm
RE: Veganism - by h4ym4n - September 12, 2024 at 1:57 pm
RE: Veganism - by h311inac311 - September 14, 2024 at 1:08 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2024 at 1:22 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - September 14, 2024 at 2:13 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2024 at 2:43 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2024 at 3:17 pm
RE: Veganism - by h4ym4n - September 17, 2024 at 6:12 am
RE: Veganism - by arewethereyet - September 12, 2024 at 7:31 am
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - September 14, 2024 at 2:32 pm
RE: Veganism - by MR. Macabre 666 - September 14, 2024 at 3:42 pm
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - September 14, 2024 at 4:19 pm
RE: Veganism - by brewer - September 14, 2024 at 4:00 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2024 at 10:15 pm
RE: Veganism - by MR. Macabre 666 - September 19, 2024 at 3:00 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2024 at 10:00 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2024 at 11:53 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2024 at 12:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 12, 2024 at 3:54 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2024 at 4:16 pm
RE: Veganism - by zebo-the-fat - September 14, 2024 at 2:52 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 17, 2024 at 7:11 am

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