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Artificially Interpreted
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RE: Artificially Interpreted
The more you look the weirder it gets, because things true of the agricultural industry as a whole are rarely representative of just the farm sector, or individual farms for that matter. So, for example, we can get numbers like that only if we specifically focus on getting them* - as the majority of the us crop is not picked by any human hand, brown or otherwise. Then, if in whatever targeted segment a study overrepresents positions like hand pick or processor by number of people rather than amount of food produced, we will get higher numbers of people from mexico...but then not all people from mexico are still immigrants in a legal sense, and fewer still are migrant labor. Mechanization skews the whole thing because, by default, a small number of operators regardless of their ethnicity or national origins do the vast majority of farm labor even on farms that heavily employ hand labor.

Further militarization of the border would primarily effect migrant labor, but not the agricultural industry as a whole, as most undocumented workers are also in a category called settled. As in they live here, and have for some time. Mass deportations would primarily effect the (much larger) processing sector of the agricultural industry, but not effect migrant hand pick. They just cross again. Mass deportations along with the family of the targeted deportee would effect all of it but particularly cripple transportation and retail (and from both ends, producer and consumer).

None of these things means much to the largest farms or the wealthiest operators not just because their wealth affords them influence, but because that category of the ag industry isn't in the same crop. Even this conclusion is based on terms of art...because the most profitable farms -per acre- are often small...and in recent years...run by tech bros, if you can believe it. Niche farms for niche consumers run by niche operators. The big winners in the deportation game end up being massive grain producers and tiny affluent farmers market types. The first because the supply of human labor is a rounding error to their operation..and the scond because they are small enough and their product comes with a high enough premium to run on family labor or a small number of temporary employees (in recent years..we found that people in these markets will actually volunteer to do this work, agritourism, lol). I guess livestock is a tossup because of it's relationship to processing and specifically hand processing. It all depends on how much people are willing to pay for bacon.

*not that I think this is a bad idea, especially if you're working for farm worker justice
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Artificially Interpreted - by Paraselene - August 7, 2024 at 2:25 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2024 at 2:38 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Paraselene - August 7, 2024 at 2:40 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2024 at 3:03 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2024 at 3:49 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2024 at 4:06 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Pat Mustard - August 18, 2024 at 4:50 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by awty - August 7, 2024 at 3:52 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Disagreeable - August 7, 2024 at 3:53 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 7, 2024 at 4:20 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2024 at 11:28 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by brewer - August 7, 2024 at 5:19 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - August 7, 2024 at 11:46 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 8, 2024 at 12:39 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Pat Mustard - August 18, 2024 at 4:55 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - August 8, 2024 at 2:26 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 14, 2024 at 9:19 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 14, 2024 at 9:47 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 14, 2024 at 11:11 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 14, 2024 at 11:14 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 14, 2024 at 11:22 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 14, 2024 at 11:48 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2024 at 5:05 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - August 14, 2024 at 11:18 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 15, 2024 at 12:01 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2024 at 5:03 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by awty - August 14, 2024 at 9:51 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 14, 2024 at 11:03 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by awty - August 15, 2024 at 5:22 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - August 15, 2024 at 12:35 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 15, 2024 at 1:14 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Mister Agenda - August 15, 2024 at 11:18 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 15, 2024 at 11:56 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Mister Agenda - August 16, 2024 at 12:10 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by awty - August 16, 2024 at 12:15 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Mister Agenda - August 16, 2024 at 12:17 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by awty - August 16, 2024 at 12:20 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 16, 2024 at 12:24 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Pat Mustard - August 18, 2024 at 5:12 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 18, 2024 at 10:47 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 19, 2024 at 12:12 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 18, 2024 at 4:45 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Paraselene - August 20, 2024 at 8:02 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 22, 2024 at 8:37 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2024 at 11:16 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2024 at 1:09 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 27, 2024 at 11:43 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - August 28, 2024 at 12:32 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 30, 2024 at 8:56 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - August 31, 2024 at 10:20 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 7, 2024 at 12:52 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 8, 2024 at 11:47 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 16, 2024 at 12:12 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 17, 2024 at 10:42 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 18, 2024 at 11:28 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2024 at 12:49 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 20, 2024 at 12:22 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 1, 2024 at 1:40 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 1, 2024 at 1:15 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 4, 2024 at 10:58 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Paraselene - October 4, 2024 at 9:14 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 8, 2024 at 7:47 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 9, 2024 at 5:19 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 11, 2024 at 12:48 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 25, 2024 at 1:55 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Asmodeus - October 25, 2024 at 3:17 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 30, 2024 at 11:29 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 3, 2024 at 12:51 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 4, 2024 at 4:09 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 7, 2024 at 1:06 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 8, 2024 at 11:32 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 12, 2024 at 3:05 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Paraselene - November 12, 2024 at 3:10 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 25, 2024 at 9:15 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 26, 2024 at 1:58 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 27, 2024 at 3:34 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Ravenshire - November 27, 2024 at 6:22 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 27, 2024 at 6:30 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 29, 2024 at 1:43 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 7, 2024 at 2:17 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 12, 2024 at 2:05 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fireball - August 26, 2024 at 11:46 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - September 8, 2024 at 8:52 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 8, 2024 at 11:19 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2024 at 6:33 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by brewer - September 14, 2024 at 7:02 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2024 at 11:41 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2024 at 1:05 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2024 at 2:28 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 21, 2024 at 12:31 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - September 21, 2024 at 1:55 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 24, 2024 at 9:36 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 26, 2024 at 8:43 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 29, 2024 at 7:47 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Thumpalumpacus - September 30, 2024 at 12:50 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2024 at 6:04 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Paraselene - September 30, 2024 at 6:18 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by brewer - October 25, 2024 at 8:18 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by awty - November 7, 2024 at 1:16 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2024 at 8:10 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2024 at 6:48 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2024 at 1:49 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2024 at 2:44 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2024 at 2:49 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2024 at 2:51 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Asmodeus - November 13, 2024 at 6:03 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2024 at 2:55 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2024 at 2:56 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2024 at 2:58 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2024 at 3:13 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2024 at 3:23 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2024 at 6:33 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - November 23, 2024 at 8:16 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by h4ym4n - November 24, 2024 at 7:53 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - December 13, 2024 at 12:26 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 15, 2024 at 1:49 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 19, 2024 at 1:36 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Asmodeus - December 19, 2024 at 11:29 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 20, 2024 at 7:55 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 21, 2024 at 2:23 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by The Architect Of Fate - December 19, 2024 at 11:38 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2024 at 12:18 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Ravenshire - December 21, 2024 at 9:19 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 22, 2024 at 5:34 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 25, 2024 at 12:57 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - December 27, 2024 at 9:48 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - January 4, 2025 at 10:23 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - January 6, 2025 at 2:39 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - January 19, 2025 at 12:46 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - January 20, 2025 at 8:44 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - January 29, 2025 at 12:16 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - February 1, 2025 at 1:41 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - February 2, 2025 at 5:16 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - February 14, 2025 at 12:19 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - February 14, 2025 at 1:51 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - February 22, 2025 at 2:04 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - February 23, 2025 at 11:26 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - March 6, 2025 at 8:19 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2025 at 6:23 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - March 14, 2025 at 12:50 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - April 13, 2025 at 1:08 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - April 19, 2025 at 12:46 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - April 22, 2025 at 12:47 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - April 28, 2025 at 7:51 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - May 9, 2025 at 9:55 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by brewer - December 25, 2024 at 9:08 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - March 12, 2025 at 3:50 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - March 12, 2025 at 4:53 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - March 12, 2025 at 3:55 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - April 30, 2025 at 6:02 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Nanny - May 1, 2025 at 9:41 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - May 9, 2025 at 9:57 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 27, 2025 at 9:58 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - May 20, 2025 at 12:11 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - June 5, 2025 at 12:35 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - June 19, 2025 at 11:09 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Nanny - June 23, 2025 at 2:55 pm
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - August 28, 2025 at 6:53 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 25, 2025 at 9:43 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Rev. Rye - September 28, 2025 at 1:37 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - September 30, 2025 at 9:36 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 11, 2025 at 6:40 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by Fake Messiah - October 13, 2025 at 1:37 am
RE: Artificially Interpreted - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2025 at 5:05 am



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