The new atheists and The war on History

[VyckRo]

"We have no idea how the library was destroyed" therefore we assume that they were Christians!

Don't be idiotic. Not even a single person in this thread, to my knowledge, made any such assertion. You are accusing atheists of saying that something happened. That doesn't make it reality. The bottom line is that no one knows what happened and it very well could have been Christians. It also could have been war or natural disaster, as I have already said. How can you possibly follow up a post where someone blatantly said it was a mystery with "You assume it was Christians!"? Fucking ridiculous.

"but once with the disappearance of the traditional patrician elite,with the collapse of the West Roman Empire, the Greek knowledge is lost."

What in the fuck are you talking about? Greek knowledge is not lost.

"In ancient Rome Greek was the language of intellectuals, as French would be later for Russians, and there was no need for translations of classical works from Greek in to Latin, therefore the Greek tests become unusable, from the moment of the disappearance of that intellectual elite that was able to understand them"

A. What the fuck does this have to do with your insane claims? B. Greek texts are usable to this day. Whether people outside of Greece could use them is irrelevant. I cannot read Arabic. Does that make Arabic texts useless?

From my long text, about the survival of the Greek culture you understand what You wanted to understand, not the historical reality.
There is a contradiction between the idea set forth by you, with Christianity as the destroyer of ancient culture.
And the idee set forth by me whit the protection, conservation and cultivation of classical works from the byzantine empire.
I have already explained, how the Greek knowledge whas lost from the west ( and yes, It whas lost for the west, for several hundred years, whit all the barbarian invasions).
I made it very clear how this knowledge has been lost, in the west, but you did not understood anything. Romans have never translated classical Greek works
in Latin, because they were bilingual, and any educated Roman, knew Greek too. With the disappearance of educated romans elites these texts could not be read by anyone the texts were discarded as waste, deleted and used for letters, songs, poems, religious texts (paper was very valuable).
Luckily,at the same time, in the Byzantine Empire theological debates were common, and theologians have quickly borrowed the methods of Greek philosophy .
Not as they were different people, were the same Hellenic philosophers that now had become Christians.
The whole concept of " Ecumenical Councils" see First seven Ecumenical Councils, was in reality a continuation of the Grek agora
Therefore the image presented by you is not authentic, Even if you threw the Inquisition card, which has nothing to do (death, torture, life imprisonment) with the period of disappearance of the classical culture from the west.


Keep in mind the following things:
1. cultures die. A good example is the ancient Egyptian culture that we can understand it, partly because Plutarch and partly du to the Rosetta Stone without these we would know almost nothing.
2. The ancient Greco-Roman culture did not disappeared completely from Europ, and that because of the interest shown by the church in the east and west.
3. Where it has disappeared, temporal, that is in the west it was not intentionally destroyed.
4. Soon as it was possible a work to recover the ancient culture began (see Jacob of Venice)

Conclusion
The idea of a Christianity that wanted to destroy the works of antiquity (but by magic failed) we only find it, in some movies as "The name of the Rose"
The west has struggled nearly 1,000 years to recover its ancient culture, and the east has struggled over1,000 years to preserves their culture.
The idea that any of the two, would have destroyed their own heritage intentionally, may be just a bad joke

One matter of reflection
As time passes over a legend the legend becomes even more spectacular, sometimes these legends become myths and and even religions.
"Cleopatra's beauty", "Lost City of Gold" or "ius primae noctis" are modern myths, may be the story of Hercules or Aphrodite began in the same way.
the library of Alexandria, seems to increase in number of volumes and size with each new account, some say even that was lit by electricity.

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Today I took the liberty of calling my friend Will. He is a Historian and Professor at Vanderbilt University. It was nice catching up with him, as we hadn't had a chat in ages. I read him some of Vyck's posts, and he laughed his ass off.

Obviously you did!
Unfortunately I always speak, with coverage in sources.
But I have not seen anyone in this post, to mention, one source.
although I mentioned several.