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Theists are Insecure
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RE: Theists are Insecure
Godschild, from a theological standpoint I will agree that Jesus made things easier through bringing in the New Covenant. However what I am speaking of is evidence that it is actually true.

I understand the idea of well just have faith and trust that it is true but are you being equal in your trust? Do you trust the writings of other ancients who make theological claims? If you do not trust others but only trust the Christian writers what is your criteria?

First it is faith that there is a God, then it is faith that the men who wrote it down actually saw what they said they did, then it is believing that although miraculous events are impossible now that they can really happen. If I told you I had an invisible dragon in my garage, thanks Sagan, you could put enough trust in me to believe me but why should you?

The skeptics here are not believing just because they really really don't want to. Don't get me wrong a lot of us REALLY don't want to as well but we can't see a reason why we could even if we wanted to. If the solution is to just have faith and throw evidence/reason to the wind then there is no rational way for us to get to faith.

This is why claims such as miracles etc could/should be easily validated by an all powerful being. Most people are going to agree with me that this being will NOT prove his existence in any direct way but they believe that for a different reason than I do. There is usually some theological justification that is mustered/attempted to explain why God cannot do something that would make evangelism and Christianity a whole lot easier. That thing is to actually prove that he is real.
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Theists are Insecure - by Forsaken - December 30, 2011 at 4:41 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - December 30, 2011 at 5:35 am
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RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 8:41 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - December 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 30, 2011 at 10:52 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Minimalist - December 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 10:58 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 30, 2011 at 11:11 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Welsh cake - December 30, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 11:19 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 30, 2011 at 11:33 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - December 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Forsaken - December 30, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 31, 2011 at 1:42 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Voltair - December 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 12:35 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Welsh cake - December 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - December 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Minimalist - December 30, 2011 at 1:24 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - December 30, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Welsh cake - December 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - December 30, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Minimalist - December 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 2:14 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - December 30, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Voltair - December 30, 2011 at 2:36 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 30, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Faith No More - December 30, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 31, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 8:00 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Voltair - December 31, 2011 at 1:23 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - December 31, 2011 at 2:06 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 31, 2011 at 2:37 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 31, 2011 at 2:18 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - December 31, 2011 at 8:34 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 9:04 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Welsh cake - December 31, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by houseofcantor - December 31, 2011 at 9:37 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - December 31, 2011 at 9:42 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - December 31, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Voltair - December 31, 2011 at 10:26 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - January 1, 2012 at 3:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - January 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - January 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - January 1, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - January 2, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by athiest fucker - December 31, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Minimalist - December 31, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Perhaps - December 31, 2011 at 1:34 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Perhaps - December 31, 2011 at 1:49 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - December 31, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - December 31, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Perhaps - December 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - January 1, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Voltair - January 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 1, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 1, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 2, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 11:30 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 2, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Shell B - January 2, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - January 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Erinome - January 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Forsaken - February 24, 2012 at 5:32 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Rokcet Scientist - February 24, 2012 at 6:00 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Rokcet Scientist - February 24, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - February 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Rokcet Scientist - February 24, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - February 24, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Rokcet Scientist - February 24, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Forsaken - February 24, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Rokcet Scientist - February 24, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Godschild - February 24, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Rokcet Scientist - February 25, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Nine - February 24, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Forsaken - February 24, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Forsaken - February 24, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Mister Agenda - February 28, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - February 29, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Mister Agenda - February 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - February 29, 2012 at 2:55 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 6:55 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 7:03 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 8:29 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by 5thHorseman - March 1, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 10:56 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 1, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 11:14 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Modular Moog V - March 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Modular Moog V - March 1, 2012 at 9:07 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Mister Agenda - March 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 1, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 1, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 8:50 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 1, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 1, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 1, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 1, 2012 at 9:16 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Modular Moog V - March 1, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 1, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Modular Moog V - March 2, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 1, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 2, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by ElDinero - March 2, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 2, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 11:14 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 2, 2012 at 11:21 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 12:38 am
Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:17 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by frankiej - March 2, 2012 at 8:18 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:35 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 8:55 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 9:04 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 9:08 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by picto90 - March 2, 2012 at 9:11 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 9:18 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by LastPoet - March 2, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 9:43 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by LastPoet - March 2, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 9:43 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 10:50 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 2, 2012 at 10:49 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 11:25 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Norfolk And Chance - March 2, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by chi pan - March 2, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by downbeatplumb - March 3, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 3, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 3, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Neo-Scholastic - March 3, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 3, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Bgood - March 4, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by The Grand Nudger - March 4, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Bgood - March 4, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: Theists are Insecure - by Whateverist - March 4, 2012 at 2:02 am

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