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Exorcism?
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RE: Exorcism?
There is a lot of assumptions to make.
We would have to assume that there is a jewish god and that this guy has gone through the process of creating some evil guy.

This comes into conflict with the notion that he loves us, that he sends prophets, that he sent his only son to get killed by the cops.
We can ask a set of questions to deal with this claim:
1. If you love person X, then why do you torture them or put him in harms way?
2. If you love your son (Jesus), then why do you torture them or put him in harms way?

Quote:In Islam the devil is described as an angel who has been appointed by God, maybe to unbalance the world a little bit with the full permission and awareness of God.

3. If the jewish god wants an evil guy so that that evil guy goes around bothering people, making them mental, making them sick, then why doesn’t he do it himself?
4. If you create an evil guy, doesn’t that imply that you are evil as well?

You are assuming or that author is assuming that there are invisible guys doing things.
Primitive humans thought that some invisible guy made it rain and another one made it snow and another one made the wind and another one made people sick.
Such mysteries have been solved by physics, chemistry, biology.
For example, the cause of a disease might be a microbial infection.


Quote:But I’m still shocked, even somehow scared to see how even a 20th century can describe some Christian Exorcism Rituals as a real process dealing with real demonic forces with the author claiming that “He looked Satan in the Eyes” during those rituals.

Think of him as a new born baby.
He has learned a few words: god, jesus, satan. You can throw in djinn into that list if you want.
He has probably learned those few names since he was 4 y old and he hasn’t progressed to learning the names of the 10^1000000000000 other characters.

I haven’t learned any other “spiritual” names either.

The science realm is different. It gets very complicated with a whole lot of terms.

Quote:The only thing similar to that in spiritual literature is our “pain bodies” as described by Eckhart Tolle. These are lifeless / unconscious energies that emanate from humans that can be present in places like ancient prisons or mental institutions that can cause sensitive people to feel depressed, angry, fearful etc. And there are really techniques to dissolve these energy bodies or protect ourselves from their influence.

Maybe they are just good actors and they know it or maybe they are good actors and they don’t know it.
If you tell them “This was a prison and mental institute and people died here horribly”, the psychic knows that he needs to put on a show.
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Messages In This Thread
Exorcism? - by Leonardo17 - November 27, 2024 at 10:14 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by Rev. Rye - November 28, 2024 at 4:54 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Sheldon - December 6, 2024 at 4:32 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2024 at 5:11 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Leonardo17 - November 29, 2024 at 10:04 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Sheldon - November 29, 2024 at 12:32 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2024 at 2:18 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by Leonardo17 - December 6, 2024 at 8:23 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Paleophyte - December 6, 2024 at 11:53 am
RE: Exorcism? - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2024 at 1:05 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by Leonardo17 - December 23, 2024 at 10:11 am
RE: Exorcism? - by arewethereyet - November 28, 2024 at 5:23 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Rev. Rye - November 28, 2024 at 6:11 am
RE: Exorcism? - by arewethereyet - November 29, 2024 at 10:33 am
RE: Exorcism? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 6, 2024 at 11:22 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Mister Agenda - December 6, 2024 at 11:34 am
RE: Exorcism? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 6, 2024 at 6:18 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2024 at 12:33 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by Leonardo17 - December 26, 2024 at 10:36 am
RE: Exorcism? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 26, 2024 at 11:33 am
RE: Exorcism? - by Ferrocyanide - January 1, 2025 at 8:44 pm
RE: Exorcism? - by Leonardo17 - January 15, 2025 at 11:38 am
RE: Exorcism? - by The Grand Nudger - January 15, 2025 at 12:14 pm

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