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Rising crime in the UK
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RE: Rising crime in the UK
(January 11, 2025 at 11:38 am)Jamie Smithie Wrote:
(January 11, 2025 at 11:14 am)Sheldon Wrote: You have already had two sperate citations demonstrating that crime has decreased steadily since the 80's, with the exceptions of cyber crime, and mobile phone theft, and for pretty obvious reasons. Would you really trust unevidenced third-party hearsay over that? Why? What one person has seen, doesn't evidence national trends in crime, I think you must be able to see that this is a preposterous idea.

Hey I'm just going by what I've seen and heard. 
Why, if it is demonstrably irrational, and refuted by objective evidence? 

Quote:I don't have to go by the same things as you, do I? 
No indeed, you are free to continue to base claims ideas and beliefs on irrational arguments, and unevidenced hearsay, but why would you when those are poor ways to reason, if you care whether something is true or not?

Quote:I observe, and I believe what my eyes tell me. 
Do you believe magic is real? Only I have seen illusionist preform magic tricks, and been unable to explain how they did it, and it's worth noting that I was aware beforehand that my senses can be deceived. FWIW personal testimony is notoriously unreliable. 
Quote:Worked for my grampa and my daddy and it works for me.

Well no it doesn't work, unless you mean it easily and blindly reinforces existing subjective beliefs and prejudices. If you are pursuing what is more likely to be true, it is a woeful standard to set. I would also be loathe to set a standard for credulity, just because people I loved used it, rather I would try and set a standard that more reliably returned beliefs, that were more likely to be true, than not. .
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Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 10, 2025 at 7:19 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Belacqua - January 10, 2025 at 8:10 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 10, 2025 at 10:35 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Belacqua - January 10, 2025 at 10:10 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 14, 2025 at 5:15 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2025 at 10:38 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 10, 2025 at 10:45 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2025 at 10:51 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 10, 2025 at 2:51 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 10, 2025 at 3:16 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 10, 2025 at 3:35 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 10, 2025 at 3:49 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 10, 2025 at 3:53 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 10, 2025 at 3:56 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Ivan Denisovich - January 10, 2025 at 3:56 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 10, 2025 at 5:05 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 4:43 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 11, 2025 at 4:52 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 5:02 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 11, 2025 at 5:09 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 5:19 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 10:17 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 10:41 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 11:14 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 11, 2025 at 11:17 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 11:27 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 11, 2025 at 11:31 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 11:36 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Deesse23 - January 11, 2025 at 11:33 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 11:41 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 11:44 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 11:56 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2025 at 2:45 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 3:11 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 11, 2025 at 3:39 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 11, 2025 at 3:29 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 11:38 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Fake Messiah - January 11, 2025 at 11:44 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 11, 2025 at 11:51 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 11, 2025 at 12:34 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by A. Secular Human - January 11, 2025 at 1:57 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2025 at 7:08 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Paraselene - January 10, 2025 at 7:18 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 10, 2025 at 7:41 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Belacqua - January 10, 2025 at 10:15 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 10, 2025 at 10:11 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 11, 2025 at 4:47 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2025 at 7:07 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 7:27 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by h4ym4n - January 11, 2025 at 7:56 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by A. Secular Human - January 11, 2025 at 1:55 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 11, 2025 at 3:17 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 11, 2025 at 3:22 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 11, 2025 at 3:49 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 12, 2025 at 1:21 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 12, 2025 at 5:10 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 12, 2025 at 5:27 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Valkyrie - January 12, 2025 at 6:24 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 12, 2025 at 9:38 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 12, 2025 at 10:32 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 12, 2025 at 11:12 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 12, 2025 at 12:08 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2025 at 9:10 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 12, 2025 at 12:19 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 12, 2025 at 3:05 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 12, 2025 at 3:10 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 12, 2025 at 3:36 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 12, 2025 at 3:43 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Angrboda - January 12, 2025 at 4:04 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 12, 2025 at 5:12 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 12, 2025 at 5:44 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Sheldon - January 12, 2025 at 6:46 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 14, 2025 at 5:35 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2025 at 7:34 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2025 at 3:52 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 12, 2025 at 4:13 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 14, 2025 at 1:37 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 20, 2025 at 10:47 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Rev. Rye - January 20, 2025 at 3:41 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 3:44 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Angrboda - January 20, 2025 at 10:53 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 20, 2025 at 10:56 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 11:09 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2025 at 11:23 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Angrboda - January 20, 2025 at 11:29 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Thumpalumpacus - January 20, 2025 at 11:12 am
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Architect Of Fate - January 20, 2025 at 12:05 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Architect Of Fate - January 20, 2025 at 12:07 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 2:11 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 20, 2025 at 3:01 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 3:15 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Architect Of Fate - January 20, 2025 at 3:17 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 20, 2025 at 3:21 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Valkyrie - January 20, 2025 at 7:09 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Architect Of Fate - January 20, 2025 at 7:12 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 3:22 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jamie Smithie - January 20, 2025 at 3:30 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 3:42 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Architect Of Fate - January 20, 2025 at 3:47 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by The Architect Of Fate - January 20, 2025 at 3:48 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 3:52 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Angrboda - January 20, 2025 at 4:33 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2025 at 4:50 pm
RE: Rising crime in the UK - by Jackalope - January 20, 2025 at 6:05 pm

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