(January 21, 2025 at 7:39 pm)Belacqua Wrote: If you take time to study the background and environment they came from, there are always precursors, foundations, roots.
(January 21, 2025 at 10:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The argument, insomuch as there is one, is whether hip hop is a product of black american culture..or "50/50" black american and puerto rican. Hip hop critics and cultural anthropologists are pointing out that while puerto ricans have greatly contributed to hip hop..
(January 22, 2025 at 3:06 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Figuring out where one genre of music or another came from is always a mess. There's always claimants, there's always students, and there's always glommers.
After sleeping on it and stepping back, I have to simplify this like The Valkyrie. It's music. Hip hop is about the music. The influences are much greater especially when addressed clearly as we have.
Emotions are influential. They can increase productive discussions or produce some heat. The controversy (or what seems like controversy) regarding Fat Joe is a result of thoughtlessly referring to early Hip Hop artists as "broke N...s " And ever since then, a red herring has been developing. The issue appears to be his derogatory remark which was in Dec. But now, many are using this as an angle and it's trending. That's not hip hop. It's childish.
My issue is that Fat Joe was on a... battle rapper's platform.
Mistake #1. The 2nd was the expletive. The battle rap audience is filled with people ready to pull things out of context.Besides the individuals here, I don't know how real adults feel about hip hop or rap. My expectations for the art forms have always been high.
